When Will Disclosure Happen? Your Views?

[Norval]

When Will Disclosure Happen? Your Views?

When do you think disclosure about ETs will happen?
What could force the disclosure issue?

[Bobbi]

I believe nuclear war would be one thing.

[Gale]

Time is cut short on account of the Elect or Holy Ones.

[unipax]

major sightings could force it, but that could be faked for a scripted disclosure.

"when" is a good question

Re nuclear war, Greer's USAF officer Salas told of the missiles being shut down when a ufo visited several silos.

I wonder who was behind that ? Now I question every incident.
My filter is: "Is this a faked incident to manipulate public perception, setting the stage for something later?"

Sightings were more interesting to me before I learned that the craft can be non-ET. ET was more appealing than guys from area 51.

[Gary]

It's already happened, many many times, Phoenix, Roswell, Stephenville, WWII, Foo fighters, in our legal document, many many times, the famous Brazil flap in the 70's, the New Zealand flap in the 70's, the Belgian flap in the 80's, Chigago airport this year, the battle of LA in the 40's Mexico, England, on and on and on!

If you don't know by now, well then forget it! You are pre-programed to never know!

IMHO!:bananen_smilies015:

[Gale]

I wonder if there is a key piece of information that has yet to be released that triggers the large craft in orbit around Earth to uncloak. If there is something yet to be disclosed that is the precursor and this precursor would result in all of the Elect and Called Ones to be put in jeopardy, well, as if they aren't already, I mean more so than already.

[unipax]

It's already happened, many many times, Phoenix, Roswell, Stephenville, WWII, Foo fighters, in our legal document, many many times, the famous Brazil flap in the 70's, the New Zealand flap in the 70's, the Belgian flap in the 80's, Chigago airport this year, the battle of LA in the 40's Mexico, England, on and on and on!



Sure but when will our so called leaders officially announce what they know ?
I guess England and France opened their ufo files ?
But did they come out and say 'yes we are not alone and they have been visiting for a long time' ?
I'd like to know what England & France said, or did they just open the files without comment?
Will world leaders go so far as to admit that our govts got swindled by BETs?

What happened with Greer's campaign congressional hearings ? I understand he got Clinton interested. I guess the real power said no to hearings.

But why was Greer allowed to publicize it to that extent?

[Gale]

We know from the Document, that the beast in the abyss comes out and kills the two witnesses, literally or figuratively either way they are dead from giving any more information or testimony. After that the two witnesses are taken up, I think the act of taking the two witnesses would be a big thing, cause after that shit hits the fan. Many believe one of the two witnesses would be the Elijah Like One. If this is the case, then we need to look at what the Elijah Like One does or is to do.

[Heretic]

Concerning the ETs: I think Gary covered it well; it is difficult to determine which were good or bad ETs in those cases (to me anyway), and we have been seeing some really big shows in Central and South America too.

Concerning the governments: Well almost every nation has now released case files of reported sightings etc. But that is all they are releasing to date so the questions remain the same, and they go unanswered, the black world remains black and no revealing conclusions have been released

I think full "overt" disclosure will begin when the question "are aliens visiting us" is answered by the governing establishment and the world takes it seriously because in my mind that is the real Pandora's box. Once the alien presence is presented to the public as a fact, that will start the chain reaction of connecting the dots into a full disclosure.

I also think we are currently in the midst of a "covert" disclosure through the media via movies, TV shows, and occasional "sanctioned" press releases that present questions and possibilities instead of ridicule and disbelief. This covert disclosure has increased in America in the last year (ish).

my two cents

[Gale]

What does "ROMANUS EUNT DOMUS" mean?

[Heretic]

What does "ROMANUS EUNT DOMUS" mean?

A funny phrase from Monty Phython's Life of Brian. Brian is painting graffiti and is caught by a Roman Centurion who proceeds to correct his grammar instead of arresting him

Should be Romani Ite Domum which stands for "Romans go home"

[Gary]

Sure but when will our so called leaders officially announce what they know ?
I guess England and France opened their ufo files ?
But did they come out and say 'yes we are not alone and they have been visiting for a long time' ?
I'd like to know what England & France said, or did they just open the files without comment?
Will world leaders go so far as to admit that our govts got swindled by BETs?

What happened with Greer's campaign congressional hearings ? I understand he got Clinton interested. I guess the real power said no to hearings.

But why was Greer allowed to publicize it to that extent?

Well listen to you, why do we have to wait for the lying cheating governments to tell us! I f Bush said UFO's are real would you believe him?
I wouldn't!

[unipax]

Well listen to you, why do we have to wait for the lying cheating governments to tell us! If Bush said UFO's are real would you believe him?
I wouldn't!

Well, "we" dont need them to tell us because we already know.

I guess that to me the word disclosure has always meant that the disclosure would come from officialdom. Therefore I see it in those terms.

and if govt discloses, they will spin it their way.

[Gale]

I agree Gary, the governments have too much to lose.

[Swami Salami]

I think there won't be any disclosure. You'll maybe read it within 25 years when we are sailing calmer waters, have benevolent rulers and the info will be given free. Biggest problem, you have to stay alive till them. Fortunately The Swami has his carpet..................

[Gary]

Well, "we" dont need them to tell us because we already know.

I guess that to me the word disclosure has always meant that the disclosure would come from officialdom. Therefore I see it in those terms.

and if govt discloses, they will spin it their way.

Disclosure means, does your heart believe it 100%

If yes, well you took your first step to surviving this mess!

Don't forget, and I don't want to scare you but, in the next few years 2/3 of our population are going to die, thats not coming from me by the way, it's in the last little book in the Bible! Every prediction in the Bible has so far happened, just as it said it would!

[Gale]

Where are you going to go with the carpet Swami?

[Swami Salami]

Where are you going to go with the carpet Swami?

I'll fly to wonderland........

[Norval]

I see only one problem with this picture, , ,



It ain't BIG enough, HNJ is 1,500 miles big ! !

This looks like it is only 1,500 feet big, , , NOT!, , :lol:
Way cool art rendering though, , grins

[Norval]

Disclosure to me would be when it is all over the world's news networks, they are talking about it and the Governments are issuing statements of, "It has been answered, the question if we are alone, NO WE ARE NOT ALONE." :rofl:

[zorgon]

But why was Greer allowed to publicize it to that extent?

Same reason Gary McKinnon is still free but in the news

Same reason France and England (and Belgium) released 'selected ' reports

Same reason people like Hoagland and others can call NASA liars and never be prosecuted for slander

I am sure you can add others to the list..

The reason? Here in Vegas the stage Magicians have a word for it... MISDIRECTION, and they make a fortune counting on that skill


So the questions is, what are we NOT seeing



When will it happen?

Peter already told you... "The Twelfth of Never...."

[zorgon]

Fortunately The Swami has his carpet..................




AHHA!!! The SOURCE of all those Chemtrails:arabia:

[Norval]

If you don't know by now, well then forget it! You are pre-programed to never know!

IMHO!:bananen_smilies015:

There is the "blindness" spoken of in the Document. Good point Gary.


I wonder if there is a key piece of information that has yet to be released, , , ,

That too is a possibility, , ,


We know from the Document, that the beast in the abyss comes out and kills the two witnesses, literally or figuratively either way they are dead from giving any more information or testimony. After that the two witnesses are taken up, I think the act of taking the two witnesses would be a big thing, cause after that shit hits the fan. Many believe one of the two witnesses would be the Elijah Like One. If this is the case, then we need to look at what the Elijah Like One does or is to do.

That is a good point too, based on what the Document says, , ,


Concerning the ETs: I think Gary covered it well; it is difficult to determine which were good or bad ETs in those cases, , , .

I think full "overt" disclosure will begin when the question "are aliens visiting us" is answered by the governing establishment and the world takes it seriously because in my mind that is the real Pandora's box. Once the alien presence is presented to the public as a fact, that will start the chain reaction of connecting the dots into a full disclosure.

I also think we are currently in the midst of a "covert" disclosure through the media via movies, TV shows, and occasional "sanctioned" press releases that present questions and possibilities instead of ridicule and disbelief. This covert disclosure has increased in America in the last year (ish).
my two cents

Good points Heretic. About just "who is who"? We can pretty much accept any flying machine with the capabilities of the UFOs we saw prior to the 1940's had to be ET, besides, those sightings go back thousands of years. Yes, I too agree, movies are a great way to "prepare" the public in many ways.


Same reason Gary McKinnon is still free but in the news
Same reason France and England (and Belgium) released 'selected ' reports
Same reason people like Hoagland and others can call NASA liars and never be prosecuted for slander
I am sure you can add others to the list..

The reason? Here in Vegas the stage Magicians have a word for it... MISDIRECTION, and they make a fortune counting on that skill
So the questions is, what are we NOT seeing


When will it happen?
Peter already told you... "The Twelfth of Never...."

Thank you Zorgon, and I have to agree that until the big ships are in orbit and easily seen with the eye, or at least binoculars, the governments will not say shit, even with their heads stuck in it. There is a chance that a "staged disclosure" could be attempted.

When it comes to "misdirection", which is a great form of deception, and as easily done as pointing to a flying carpet as the culprit of chemtrails. :lol: As in CS crater chains, DO NOT discuss the aspects of these as weapons of war, or discuss the potentials of a Sol system war. Look at a broken up hunk of space rock landing in this precise pattern, or impossible electrical arcing between Sol bodies, anything BUT ETs doing it. As you say, "The louder the opposition protests, the more I know I am on the right track"

[Gale]

A staged disclosure, if you are meaning holographic ships, then it won’t work. The PTB just don’t have the refined technology to effectively achieve that ruse.
Besides there are too many of us that would now it was wrong and staged. The PTB just could not make a fake Jesus.
If you are meaning a stage disclosure of the ET’s here, well then the cat is out of the bag and the PTB would be admitting they had/were dancing with the devil.
So a staged event just isn’t going to happen.

[₣яэđĸĊ]

When will disclosure happen?

in this case, like so many others, a picture is worth a 1,000.000 words:



Welcome to Friday, everyone!!

[zorgon]

AH!!! So its the PIGS that are responsible for the cattle abductions... NICE!

[Norval]

, , , , would them pigs be doing the mutilations too?!?! :eek:

[Gale]

It must be mad pig disease.

[Norval]

When will disclosure happen?

in this case, like so many others, a picture is worth a 1,000.000 words:



Welcome to Friday, everyone!!

So, uhmmmm, is this called Swine Flew? :bananen_smilies015:

When there are hundreds of huge ships visable around earth, all will see and know.

[unipax]

AH!!! So its the PIGS that are responsible for the cattle abductions... NICE!

You're getting very close Z. The truth is in plain sight.

Look again and notice who is curiously not depicted that image.

And have you noticed who Linda Moulton Howe never, NEVER interviews??

Its the chickens.

They control the pigs, who do their dirtywork.
Thats why the pigs are wearing headgear.

All that stuff about pigs being smart...guess who is behind that disinfo...

[unipax]

oops

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[unipax]

Since disclosure to me is about truth, the PTB are not about to disclose that.

They may trot out some partial truth about UFOs and visitors.

They may trot out some part truth pablum

[Gale]

Hilarious Swine Flew, thanks Fred and Norval.

When the giggling wears off we are still left with PTB that are confident in their incompetence. A prime example is the almost 50 year old capsule design for space travel and recovery that is going to be used in the new manned space projects; then to lose the design specs. The PTB would be too scared to release even a tiny snippet without revealing their involvement from the beginning. Disclosure, logically can't come from them, they have too much to lose, too much invested.
That only leaves Disclosure from above of all those ships. If you examine the Document, Jesus doesn't even know when because it is our Creator/Father that gives that final order. But the Document states we will have a good idea of when this will happen. Like a farmer knows when to plant his crop or start picking the first ripe ones.