What "Kinds" of ETs ? Plant? Flesh? Insect? Energy?

[Norval]

What "Kinds" of ETs ? Plant? Flesh? Insect? Energy?

Think about it, and what have you read about as far as types and shapes that sentient intelligent life may be in?

[Norval]

I have often wondered because of the numerous stories and tales of different ETs with resemblance to reptiles, insects and so on what others ideas on this are? There seems to be alot of evidence to indicate that the human form is not the only one that is intelligent. What are your ideas?

[sfth13]

Dolphins, Whales. I've seen videos where they surround schools of smaller fish to eat and the killer whales hunt in pods as well and teach the young how to hunt .... as far as insects. Ant's and Bees seem to work well together in colonies..

[Gale]

Some things make me wonder.


Against all odds, Shiloh Pepin of Portland, Maine turned 8 years old in August 2007. She was born with Mermaid Syndrome, or Sirenomelia, one of the rarest conditions known to man. This condition means the foetus fails to develop normally below the waist, resulting in a fusion of the lower limbs. Of the few foetuses that actually make it to birth, most die within hours of leaving the womb.

Although there are thought to be five known survivors worldwide - Shiloh is the only one not to have had her legs separated by surgery. Having only one, partially-working kidney, no lower colon and no genital organs, such an operation up until now has been too dangerous for her. Her plucky character and determination have so far seen her through - she even plays football and attends dance classes. But she's now entering the most risky and challenging time of her life.

The Little Mermaid (http://www.firecrackerfilms.com/Broadcast/Projects/TheLittleMermaid/index.html)

[unipax]

At this point, I'm thinking: "What life form would not be subject to 'hosting' or intrusion by another life form ?"

...and to add to cetaceans etc, Some birds are really smart too.

...and how about those plants responding to music and human thoughts / intentions in those experiments done at Findhorn, I think, and probably elsewhere ?

[Heretic]

From what I have read there are basically two schools of thought on this

insects, bulls, dogs, apes, sea life, birds, and just about anything basically that becomes the dominant species of a planet, will eventually (if allowed by evolution) become humanoid with 2 arms, legs, eyes etc and many Egyptian "gods" were non human, yet humanoid in nature (ie Anubis, Toth, Hapis and more), but the basic premise is a humanoid archetype

then the other is that anything, any shape or form given enough time and evolutionary chance could become a space faring species and beyond

for now...

I tend to believe that latter because it just makes sense, but who knows *shrug*

[unipax]

I like the theory that mushrooms are travelers from 'out there somewhere'

... especially since they can be 'magic'

[Norval]

, , , or, any sentient intelligent life could eventually learn to genetically "create" any form they would want to. Just thinking of saving all those eons of "evolution".

[corleone]

I like the theory that mushrooms are travelers from 'out there somewhere'

... especially since they can be 'magic'

I was magic then, for a year and half....daily

[whitecrow]

I think an attendant question to this is the matter of totem animals, or what some might call familiars. I use the screen name white crow for a reason. A crow is at least as intelligent as a five-year-old child. I saw my first white crow in 2000 at the commencement of a series of events and experiences that completely change my life and my outlook, and eventually made sense of things that happened to me decades ago - mentors who were present in my life, and so forth.

Since then I have been visited by a white crow on a number of occasions, and each time it marked a new period of transition. Now when I see one I understand that a change is coming.

A white crow is not actually white, but a crow with white markings. I've learned that this is a reasonably common mutation, and they are called "sports." They are real birds which I've been able to point out to others once or twice.

Huge flocks of crows are very common in southern California where I live, and the vast majority are normal black birds. The odd thing is that when I see a sport, it almost seems to be drawn to me, will let me get closer than most crows ever will, just as if it was deliberately displaying itself to me personally.

As for what kind of life form could be of high intelligence, there seem to be few limitations. Another animal that is extremely intelligent is the octopus, and these are about as foreign to us as any animal on earth. I have viewed hive insects such as ants and bees as a corporate or group entity, where the actual intelligence is embodied in the hive itself, and the individual insects are analogous to cells in the body. The body just isn't held together in a single unit but rather cells that act in concert AS IF they were a unitary body.

[Gale]

An interesting side topic, maybe a new thread is the study of the Carolina Bays and the plant life that is only found there.


Carolina Bay Information (http://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/cbaymenu.html)
The Carolina Bays, George A. Howard, 1997 (http://www.georgehoward.net/cbays.htm)

[Gary]

"Immortal" Jellyfish Swarm World's Oceans



Ker Than
from National Geographic News

January 29, 2009
A potentially "immortal" jellyfish species that can age backward—the Benjamin Button of the deep—is silently invading the world's oceans, swarm by swarm, a recent study says.

Like the Brad Pitt movie character, the immortal jellyfish transforms from an adult back into a baby, but with an added bonus: Unlike Benjamin Button, the jellyfish can do it over and over again—though apparently only as an emergency measure.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/01/090130-immortal-jellyfish-swarm.html

If this is true our oceans are in trouble!

[Gale]

amazing..................

[₣яэđĸĊ]

Warning! Strange, and off the beaten path life experiences...


I have a fairly good memory. By that I mean it seems to have always been a good bit better than most of my friends and family. Exception: my father. He couldn't quite recite a book by merely reading it, but he could turn to within 30 pages of where he did read it. Even things in 400 page engineering manuals. Anyway...

I got wiped clean at age 2. I know, I know... "Oh come on! No one remembers things from when they were two." I do, in detail. I got sick at age 2. In 1953, I contracted spinal meningitis, and was in a coma for 3 days, unconscious for two weeks. Two things stand out about it:
1. I am evidently "very lucky" as there was absolutely no permanent damage.
2. I have absolutely no recollection of anything before this in my life.

When I told my family about this in later years, I got the expected "Oh come on..." response. I stopped these, and settled the matter by recalling for them what was my first recollection. It was of waking up, in the hospital, after being "gone" for two weeks.

I was in a one-story isolation annex to the hospital. My room's only window looked out on the emplyee parking lot. My nurse drove a two-tone Ford Victoria. Black and white. She parked in the 2nd row of cars, and the entire parking lot was still gravel. unpaved.

Made believers out of them! ;)

What occurs to me is the possibility I am some sort of "Do-over", or "walk-in", or something. It isn't something that keeps me awake at night, really. I mean, I am who I am, whoever that is. And I have evidently arrived here without any better clue to that than anyone else.

Told ya that story, to tell you this one:

Re. "insects", and something Norval said about "shapes that sentient intelligent life may be in"...


f-fwd to the time span from age 8-13 (1958-1964). I spent part of this time in Chile, and part back here in the States.

Now, afore I start, I have read somewhere that this phenomenon is not uncommon among children. That many seem to go through something similar. I have only my experiences to go by, though, so I am not sure if that is all it is.

During this time, I would, at times, become "very sure" that some of the people close to me in my daily life were not human. That their job was:
to observe and report my progress, and to prevent me from finding out who I really was. These people were "shape shifters" of some sort, as they appeared completely human, though I would "Sense" something different about them, though I was fairly sure they could not tell I did.

This brought a new problem to the situation for me. As they had no clue, the danger existed that I might "walk in on them" at some point, in the "wrong shape". It bothered me because, if I did see one then, well the jig is up, and "now what do we tell him?" Or would they just cancel the whole experiment (me!).

Reason I mention this:
The ones watching me weren't human, grey, reptile, or anything like that. I would have to describe them as being a form of insect. They're physical appearance would have to be described as "like a preying Mantis, except a darker green"

An oddity for me came in the movie "Communion". where his visitors are stripping away one facade after another, and he says, "You're not going to let me see who you are, are you?" and for just an instant, you get a glimpse at an insect form. I, of course, said "wow! It's them!" then quickly, "Oh, nothin' honey".


Re:"afore I start";
These kinds of fantasies, I hear, are not uncomon in children, mostly only children, as well. (No, I don't recall where I read that... life's like that, at times). The reason I hadn't worried a lot about it since reading this is the fact I am a "nearly only child". I was a "last fling". My closest sibling was17 yrs older than I, and they had all moved out by the time I was 6. So from 6 on, I was essentially the only kid at home.

Now, before I get labeled some kind of "enemy" life form, I have produced children, who in turn have produced children. So far, no antennae, feelers, extra eyelids, etc, and yes, they are all warm blooded, and bi-pedal. ;)

So... afore y'all think I really am crazy, I think I'll just post the damned thing and see what follows.

Fred
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Completely off-topic, to WhiteCrow;
Yeah WhiteCrow, seems crows in large numbers are a "moveable feast" in our area. "wherever they move, they feast".

My first wife, who has been involved with herbology, and wicca for over 30 years, took in a wounded crow, and nursed it back to health. The critter hung around with her for many years. "Clever" birds.

She remembers him often, as a character in the stories she publishes, and paintings, as well. This happens to be one of my favorites. The job she did on the face and hands is haunting.

Title: The Crone

[unipax]

cool
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

[Norval]

hmmmmm, , , it seems Fred and I have some things in common about our past, , , ,

What is a flock of crows called? and why? :)

[Gale]

What is a group of crows called, and why?
A "murder" of crows is based on the persistent but fallacious folk tale that crows form tribunals to judge and punish the bad behavior of a member of the flock. If the verdict goes against the defendant, that bird is killed (murdered) by the flock. The basis in fact is probably that occasionally crows will kill a dying crow who doesn't belong in their territory or much more commonly feed on carcasses of dead crows. Also, both crows and ravens are associated with battlefields, medieval hospitals, execution sites and cemeteries (because they scavenged on human remains). In England, a tombstone is sometimes called a ravenstone.
American Society of Crows and Ravens (http://www.ascaronline.org/crowfaq.htm#faq1)

I sometimes feed the seagulls and crows at work, watching their behavior is fascinating.
I would say it is not a fallacy, I have seen crow behavior in my yard with a dieing crow, they sit in the trees cawing to each other until it died but strangely enough they didn't eat the dead bird.

[sfth13]

here's a strange story, last year my brother in-law came to visit, he just had surgery to remove his protrate due to cancer. well for 3 days while he sat in the yard there were 15-20 crows in the tree overlooking the yard. they were in the tree the whole time he was outside. I have never seen thme before or after my brother in-laws visit. almost like they were watching him. he was getting nervous he thought he was going to die. we still joke about that today. and I still haven't seen them since

[Swami Salami]

The Raven, family of the Crow

Poem performed by Lou Reed

Orginal written by Edgar Allen Poe

http://you.video.sina.com.cn/b/2036152-1228744920.html

[Norval]

Vastly advanced technologies would allow for the insertion of the memories and emotions of one into another life form very probable. Of course brain types and size would be a limiting factor in the transfer I would imagine.

Just thinking, , , , :)