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WEINLAND IS BACK!
Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water, he is back!
Ronald Weinland
Ronald Weinland - Author of “The Prophesied End-Time” & “2008 - God’s Final Witness”
1260 DAYS
December 13, 2008
From time to time, some have asked why more is not being posted on this site. This has been explained in previous postings and the same remains true to this day. As conditions worsen, once the trumpets begin to sound, these postings will become more important. However, one of the best ways to keep informed in a timely fashion is to listen to services (live or posted) each Sabbath.
Having said all this, I am beginning this new post by writing some today (1265 days) and will add a little more when this will be posted on day 1261 (Dec. 13). That will be the Sabbath when Laura and I are once again in Jerusalem as we were last April when we believed we were at this point in time then.
On the previous two Sabbaths we were in Europe. After having observed the Sabbath in the Netherlands with members in Europe, we went to the airport in Brussels where we said goodbye to the Harrell’s as they were returning to the U.S. and we were leaving for Cairo, Egypt. As I write, I am in awe of the view I now have some 34 stories above and beside the Nile River. This morning, one assistant for tours in the region stated that he has never seen such a clear day in Cairo. Right now we are able to look out at the awesome site of the great pyramids of Giza (with no smog obstructing the view) on the outskirts of the city.
It is such a marvel to be in a region where all I can think of, as I see these sites, is that Moses and the children of Israel were here, and passed from here at another moment in time. We have also seen the oldest of pyramids—the oldest structures built by man—that may date to around 2630 BC. The oldest is the Pyramid of Djoser (Zoser), or step pyramid in the Saqqara necropolis in the area of Cairo. On Sabbath, I will speak more about our trip to Egypt and the impact it has had upon us, as this region of the world sums up the lessons of man’s history and is a powerful witness of Satan’s influence on mankind for nearly 6,000 years now.
By the time Daniel wrote his book and it was given to him to prophecy about four great kingdoms of the world, and a kingdom that would come out of the heavens and destroy all others, he was speaking of his time then and the time that would follow all the way up to the end-time. However, there was one great kingdom on earth that had existed for a long time before that and for a longer period of time than the actual time of the various resurrections of the Roman Empire. Daniel was writing at a time when Egypt had existed as a powerful kingdom for over 2,000 years. I will have more to say about this early kingdom in this Sabbath’s sermon.
As I am writing today on the Sabbath (day 1261), this evening at sunset will begin the long awaited time of the final 1260 days that Daniel wrote about and wanted to see its fulfillment. Prophets and other teachers of God have longed for this day that we are blessed to see come to pass. We know that in a very short time this world will be God’s world and ruled by His Government.
This is a very sobering time for my wife and me as we are in the city that God prophetically describes as Sodom (spiritually). We are in a hotel room a block away from where we can look down upon one of the higher points of the old city and specifically at the Jaffa Gate. It is in this area where the two witnesses will be killed and three and one-half days later, Jesus Christ will begin His return to this earth as King of kings. It is good to be in this time, since this is the time of transition from Satan’s rule to God’s rule on earth. Now mankind can be humbled and brought into oneness of life, with one government over all the earth and one true Church of God, and there will be no other false beliefs allowed to exist any longer. The peace and joy this brings to mankind is beyond human appreciation and understanding at this time. God speed that day!
Just another Religionist that writes books.
If you want to learn about the 7 Thunders, buy his book, r-i-g-h-t!
Norval
12-30-2008, 07:22 AM
WEINLAND IS BACK!
Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water, he is back!
Just another Religionist that writes books.
If you want to learn about the 7 Thunders, buy his book, r-i-g-h-t!
, , , and all I can add to this is :puke:
Thanks for the warning Gary, , :)
, , , and all I can add to this is :puke:
Thanks for the warning Gary, , :)
Nope this one gives his books away free of charge!
http://earthsbanner.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33
I thought you would know about this guy!
This last war will be the result of clashing religions and the governments they sway
This last war has nothing to do with religion, so as long as Weinland has his feet grounded in religionocity he is just adding to misdirection and confusion.
This last war has nothing to do with religion, so as long as Weinland has his feet grounded in religionocity he is just adding to misdirection and confusion.
You obviously don't know who this guy believes he is!
He claims along with his dear wife to be the two end time witnesses!
He also claims, he and his wife will be killed on the streets of Jerusalem before the whole watching world, they will be resurrected and 3 day's later Jesus will arrive!
He also said America would be nuked last April, thankfully that didn't happen and since then he has been laying low, until now!
He claims along with his dear wife to be the two end time witnesses!
He also claims, he and his wife will be killed on the streets of Jerusalem before the whole watching world, they will be resurrected and 3 day's later Jesus will arrive!
He also said America would be nuked last April, thankfully that didn't happen and since then he has been laying low, until now!
I already got that, ergo "he is just adding to misdirection and confusion".
I received Weinland’s book, 2008 God’s Final Witness the other day. I am just on chapter 2, The Deception in Man and I am very sceptical of this man.
To quote:
…because the very core and inner working of human nature is based on pride and selfishness – self being first.
Whether man likes it or not, this base nature is the cause of problems we experience. It is the cause of conflicts, arguments, dissension, envy, competition, hatred, wars, stress and unhappiness in life.
This sticks out like a sore thumb. The core of human nature is not pride and selfishness, grant it we do have the error of making wrong choices and free will but as we mature from baby to pre-teen to teen then young adult we grow out the me-me, I want stage which does not equate to selfishness or pride. We do have a nature of self-sacrifice.
Weinland is not considering who are here among us humans that do show the nature of pride, selfishness and arrogance.
I received Weinland’s book, 2008 God’s Final Witness the other day. I am just on chapter 2, The Deception in Man and I am very sceptical of this man.
To quote:
This sticks out like a sore thumb. The core of human nature is not pride and selfishness, grant it we do have the error of making wrong choices and free will but as we mature from baby to pre-teen to teen then young adult we grow out the me-me, I want stage which does not equate to selfishness or pride. We do have a nature of self-sacrifice.
Weinland is not considering who are here among us humans that do show the nature of pride, selfishness and arrogance.
Well I totally agree with him, I'm sure you and other people do have a nature of self sacrifice but people in general don't, the core of human nature appears to be pride and selfishness in every walk of life, me more, me more!
It is a rat race out there, it is literally, dog eat dog and it's getting worse by the day, we are all in deep trouble because when TSHTF, people wont be queing up to help each other, they will be queing up to rip the shirt of your back and believe me when you are down, they will not stop kicking!
Governments, politicians, bankers, medical company's, insurance company's,
company executives, managers, workers, they are all at it and they are bringing the world to it's knees, it's a me more society, greed and selfishness rules, I don't know where you live but it most be some kind of utopia!
Heretic
01-11-2009, 05:52 AM
I wonder what our "human resume" may look like if we could live as long as we are supposed to...and not in a constant survivalist state
I figure I could get rid of my pride and most of my "human" flaws in a couple hundred years easy and even have plenty of time to become who ever I wanted to be during the other hundreds of years
I definitely don’t live in Utopia.
I do see humanity has great potential and I don’t blame all that is wrong in this world on humanity.
The BET’s have had thousands and thousands of years to manipulate and deceive the population. Since they are here, the testing of humanity has gone to an all-new level that makes it now a test for survival. At the heart of that is not greed, pride and selfishness of humans but greed, pride and selfishness of the BET’s.
We humans are to go out there among the stars, the BET’s will not, we are to become Ambassador’s for the Intergalactic Government, the BET’s are not. The BET’s used to be out there so just image how far they have fallen and how angry, vicious and desperate they are.
On another note, I have seen ones that seem to be of mixed DNA fighting against their own nature to do good and try to fit in society and get along, even though they can still be annoying and test ones patience, I will give them credit.
Looking at John the Baptist, he never once claimed to be the Elijah Like One; it was only announced after the fact that he was the Elijah to come. I think the same will apply to the third Elijah (Like) to come before the great and terrible day.
Doing searches and looking closely at those ones that claim to be the two witnesses, nope, I am being to suspect that as with John the Baptist the same most likely will be for the two witnesses, they will not announce themselves as the two witnesses it will be up to the inhabitants to recognise them. They will just do their job.
Weinland is just another claim to be one of the two witnesses to supposedly die in Jerusalem. The wording in Revelations does not say Jerusalem, it says, “which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt” and some translations have “where also their Lord was crucified” or “our Lord”, I think there has been a lot of massaging of the wording over the years. I highly doubt it will be Jerusalem, with technology as one of the keys to understanding, I suspect that the “great city” spiritually Sodom and Egypt could be the World Wide Web.
I figure I could get rid of my pride and most of my "human" flaws in a couple hundred years easy and even have plenty of time to become who ever I wanted to be during the other hundreds of years
Good one Heretic!! But if we are to be changed in the blinking of an eye then just image what you can learn over hundreds of year especially if you don’t die.
Firstly, I am not suggesting Mr. and Mrs. Weinland are the two last witnesses nothing could be further from the truth and I'm sure it will be two more modest people, as for Sodom and Egypt, we wont know until it happens but be it with TV or Internet the whole world will see them killed.
Most people on the Earth today are greedy, selfish, mean, proud, hateful and lacking in humanity, this process began thousands of years ago when Adam and Eve took the forbidden fruit, it's in the Bible as we all know, they introduced Satan to us all, I can't remember the exact quote I was taught but it was something like this, each child born will be three times more sinful than their parents! It also Say's in Revelation that children in the end times will be uncontrollable, I don't know if you have read about Britains mean streets recently or read about the ghastly things kids do these day's, or how they disrespect there elders, they are literally out of control!
It's not just the kids, billions of people suffer depression, are hooked on gambling, porn, drugs, drink, more people than ever are killing themselves, teenagers are self harming.
Greedy banks who put us in this financial mess by lending thousands of dollars, pounds or euros to people who couldn't ever afford to pay it back to buy houses are now taking those houses back from the owners and selling the same house for a hundred dollars!
People in America who have all their life paid medical insurance are being refused life saving operations or medicine because the insurance people are too greedy to pay up!
Farmers in Europe and America are being massively subsidised deflating food costs and making sure third world country's starve!
Free energy has long been available but we all know we will never be allowed it while oil and gas are in the ground.
No Gail, you are very wrong, mankind is a big big mess, it's not bad ET's doing this we are, yes! the devil is here pushing us along pulling our strings just like the Bible warns us but how many people do you know read the Bible, even worse, how many people do you know follows the Bible code, not many, the Bible clearly says it is a hand book of life and if you follow it's code all demons will flee from you!
So you see, it's not BET'S it's us and that's why it says 2 billion are to die because they are no longer worth saving!
Heretic
01-11-2009, 09:25 AM
well I most certainly agree that people can be bad, without having to be a bad ET
I would think the BETs are those running the show with maybe some minions here and there to make the running smooth, this means many many BETs
regular people can become corrupt and then see the light and change yes?
I am not informed on the gradient to which a bad person becomes a BET or how to discern between BETs and bad people
is a BET aware they are a BET, or can they be Manchurian BETs
clarification on this would be most welcome
The BET or Bad ET Thread (http://earthsbanner.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78)
I wanted to answer Norval's post here because I think it's so relevant and what he says so true!
I think we are all possessed and tested by demons, devil's, BET's, whatever they are, it's something that's been bothering me for months now, racking my brain, why do we do the things we do, where does that irrational thought come from, for instance to dislike a perfect stranger you never even met before, or to lash out angrily at someones perfectly rational comment, to talk about some one behind their back, we have all done it!
It is, as Norval says wonderful technology to alter a persons thoughts and a terrible weapon in the wrong hands!
However God would never expect us to endure something that we were not capable of overcoming, look what Job had to endure for example and how well that came out for him in the end.
I am quoting this out of my head as usual but Jesus said something like, if your eye is making you stumble, cut it out!, Cut your own eye out! are you crazy? But what Jesus is really saying is, if a part of you is destroying you, throw it away because a nasty temper for instance or a bad drinking habit, could cost you eternal life, so get rid of it, don't drink! is it really more important than eternal life?
A long time ago, I was messed up on drink and drugs and I was also a bit of a monster too, drink and drugs was my weakness and my bad ET knew only too well how to get me wound up but once I started asking God to help me he did, in my case, it wasn't instantaneous, maybe I'm a type that needs nursing, I don't know but my point is, God gave all of us a choice at the end of the day it's up to us, good? Or bad?
Maybe this answers Heretic's question as well!
Heretic
01-12-2009, 06:09 PM
if you toss a piece of meat to a crowd of starving people, they will fight to the death for it
thus the human condition is geared for survival to the point of doing whatever it takes to survive
Perhaps one could have the strength of heart and mind to let the meat go to someone else with the conviction of love and selflessness, but that would be a rare person indeed
therefore if the BETS can engineer a world with a constant need for survival with constant wars and degenerating conditions of survival of the fittest then you can bring out the worst of the survival instinct to create the condition for man to be heartless and even ruthless
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities . Voltaire
sometimes our environment, beliefs, and exploitation of our most basic instincts create bad humans IMHO, brainwashing them to be someone they are not meant to be
I cannot imagine the Manchurian Candidate being a BET...or they would not have had to "condition" them into that role
yet who knows the thoughts of a person
my two cents
Norval
01-13-2009, 09:56 AM
if you toss a piece of meat to a crowd of starving people, they will fight to the death for it
thus the human condition is geared for survival to the point of doing whatever it takes to survive
Perhaps one could have the strength of heart and mind to let the meat go to someone else with the conviction of love and selflessness, but that would be a rare person indeed
therefore if the BETS can engineer a world with a constant need for survival with constant wars and degenerating conditions of survival of the fittest then you can bring out the worst of the survival instinct to create the condition for man to be heartless and even ruthless
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities . Voltaire
sometimes our environment, beliefs, and exploitation of our most basic instincts create bad humans IMHO, brainwashing them to be someone they are not meant to be
I cannot imagine the Manchurian Candidate being a BET...or they would not have had to "condition" them into that role
yet who knows the thoughts of a person
my two cents
From amongst mankind many are Called, but, few will become Chosen. They are rare indeed.
BETs are not of "mankind", they are ETs that refuse the Kingdom Government and are hell bent on destroying mankind.
There are hundreds of ones claiming to be the two witnesses, so too, ones claiming to be the Elijah like prophet for the end times. As for this Weinland and wife, well, they are amongst about a dozen ones there in Israel claiming to be the two witnesses. Some the government have kicked out already. From the research I and many others have done, that is not the place the two witnesses will show up. Also, you will not see them on any of the MSMedia, as that will be prevented, I am sure.
Also, you will not see them on any of the MSMedia, as that will be prevented, I am sure
Never thought of that!
unipax
01-13-2009, 03:05 PM
Also, you will not see them on any of the MSMedia, as that will be prevented, I am sure
Never thought of that!
Its a rule
(just kidding)
But its not really a joke, since we know that the MSM itself is truly a joke, and a really bad joke at that
Its a rule
(just kidding)
But its not really a joke, since we know that the MSM itself is truly a joke, and a really bad joke at that
Yes but........ it's quoted in Revelation to John, that the whole world will witness the death of the two witnesses!
Its a rule
(just kidding)
But its not really a joke, since we know that the MSM itself is truly a joke, and a really bad joke at that
However, in a Revelation to John, it states the whole world will witness the death of the last two witnesses!
Norval
01-13-2009, 10:18 PM
Posted for everyone's perusal.
RSV with Apocrypha
Revelation 11:3
And I will grant my two witnesses power to prophesy for one thousand
two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."
Revelation 11:4
These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands which stand
before the Lord of the earth.
Revelation 11:5
And if any one would harm them, fire pours out from their mouth and
consumes their foes; if any one would harm them, thus he is doomed to
be killed.
Revelation 11:6
They have power to shut the sky, that no rain may fall during the days
of their prophesying, and they have power over the waters to turn them
into blood, and to smite the earth with every plague, as often as they
desire.
Revelation 11:7
And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends
from the bottomless pit will make war upon them and conquer them and
kill them,
Here it gets interesting in it's word divergences. Most all passages read as do these
listed here, except for Rev. 11:8
Revelation 11:8
RSV with Apocrypha
and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which is
allegorically called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified.
New RSV
and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city
that is prophetically called Sodom and Egypt, where also their
Lord was crucified.
King James Version
And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which
spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
New American Standard Bible
And their dead bodies will lie in the
street of the great city which mystically is
called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was
crucified.
New King James Version
And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city
which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our LORD
was crucified.
Strong's Numbers
And their dead <4430> bodies <4430> [shall lie] in the street <4113> of the
great <3173> city <4172>, which <3748> spiritually <4153> is called <2564>
Sodom <4670> and Egypt <125>, where <3699> also <2532> our Lord <2962> was
crucified <4717>.
Revelation 11:9
RSV with Apocrypha
For three days and a half men from the peoples and tribes and tongues
and nations gaze at their dead bodies and refuse to let them be placed
in a tomb,
Revelation 11:10
RSV with Apocrypha
and those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and make merry
and exchange presents, because these two prophets had been a torment to
those who dwell on the earth.
Revelation 11:11
RSV with Apocrypha
But after the three and a half days a breath of life from God entered
them, and they stood up on their feet, and great fear fell on those who
saw them.
Revelation 11:12
RSV with Apocrypha
Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, "Come up
hither!" And in the sight of their foes they went up to heaven in a
cloud.
Revelation 11:13
RSV with Apocrypha
And at that hour there was a great earthquake, and a tenth of the city
fell; seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the rest
were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.
Norval
01-14-2009, 07:56 AM
Revelation 11:8
which is allegorically called Sodom and Egypt,
that is prophetically called Sodom and Egypt
which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt,
which mystically is called Sodom and Egypt,
which <3748> spiritually <4153> is called <2564> Sodom <4670> and Egypt <125>,
As we can see here there is a remarkable divergence of word choice used.
Why, I wonder? Anyone else have any other words used in their documents' translations?
Edgar GoodSpeed"s translation, "the great city that is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt".
The New Jerusalem Bible, "symbolic names Sodom and Egypt" and the St. Joseph Edition.
The JW's New World Translation, "in a spiritual sense called Sodom and Egypt".
The Holy Bible in Modern English by Ferrar Fenton has "spiritually...where also their Master was crucified."
It could be referring to "The World" Babylon?
Norval
01-14-2009, 07:06 PM
Now we need to know what the two words Sodom and Egypt mean? :)
Bobbi
01-15-2009, 02:50 AM
Okay, here's my thoughts. We know that Sodom was a city of wickedness, debauchery, and lust. Egypt was a country known for worshipping false gods. Where does that lead us?
Okay, here's my thoughts. We know that Sodom was a city of wickedness, debauchery, and lust. Egypt was a country known for worshipping false gods. Where does that lead us?
City of wickedness, Rome, they slaughtered all the Christians.
Rome, Home of the vatican, Pope, worshipping false Gods?
So then looking for something allegorically, prophetically, spiritually, mystically and figuratively is “a city of wickedness, debauchery, and lust” and a “country known for worshipping false gods”.
That’s everywhere. So I think it’s the wonderful World Wide Web, allegorically it’s a city of wickedness and figuratively/mystically all the false gods are represented with their respective followers everywhere on the net.
It’s a hot bed of anything your heart desires you can find it on the net and even those terrible crosses with Jesus hanging on it dead. Why anyone would ever want to wear one of those terrible things around their necks is beyond me, He is hanging on it dead, nails in His hands (not wrists) and feet, just makes me shiver at the thought. I am grateful He did what He did but I wouldn’t want to constantly remind Him of the torture.
ops off topic, sorry.
Well thats a great theory and you could well be right but how are the two last witnesses to be left dead on the streets of the net for three day's?
Norval
01-16-2009, 08:19 AM
Gale and I did some research on this a few years back and came up with some ideas. Take another look at the wording about "street", if I remember right, there is something about a "broad way".
Gale and I did some research on this a few years back and came up with some ideas. Take another look at the wording about "street", if I remember right, there is something about a "broad way".
Broad way------World wide?----www?
Norval
01-26-2009, 09:02 AM
Revelation 11:8
RSV with Apocrypha
and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which is
allegorically called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified.
"where their Lord was crucified"
Everyone knows where Jesus was crucified and yet I have seen Jesus "crucified" to a far greater extent here on the web. Just a thought.
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