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Sorry Zen but Michael Tsarion is so full of crap his eyes are brown. He lifts no veil off an agenda. He is an insult to intelligence.
Remember this, Gary, you can post and type till your fingers bleed about atrocities that occur daily, what is your point? Elicit sympathy? You don’t even know if these people in all these articles are human or humanoid, BET or BRET or mixed DNA or of good heart.
If they are BET’s let them carry on.
You know from the Document that a victim with a good heart that believes in Jesus will be restored to full health.
You don't learn do you?
Zenbouy dosen't deserve this, you are an insult to Zenbouy's intelligence, do you think he went to all this trouble to hear this CRAP! from you???
Why are you so arrogant?
You say you represent God almighty? I don't think so!
Zen replied this video was part of his research and learning and I replied with thanks, that explains it….so now I understand. I don’t see any arrogance there. Maybe ask Zen if he took what I post as being mean, arrogant and an insult, which it was not.
The video you posted was of a person getting acid thrown in their eyes. I find some of the atrocities recorded on the net to be heart wrenching but if considering two thirds of the population is not going to survive what is coming and there are some really mean wicked ones on this Earth, how can you tell if that acid incident wasn’t perpetrated by the wicked one? The victim could be an innocent, ergo “victim with a good heart that believes in Jesus will be restored to full health”.
Me? arrogant?…if you actually knew me you would know that is far from the truth.
Zen replied this video was part of his research and learning and I replied with thanks, that explains it….so now I understand. I don’t see any arrogance there. Maybe ask Zen if he took what I post as being mean, arrogant and an insult, which it was not.
The video you posted was of a person getting acid thrown in their eyes. I find some of the atrocities recorded on the net to be heart wrenching but if considering two thirds of the population is not going to survive what is coming and there are some really mean wicked ones on this Earth, how can you tell if that acid incident wasn’t perpetrated by the wicked one? The victim could be an innocent, ergo “victim with a good heart that believes in Jesus will be restored to full health”.
Me? arrogant?…if you actually knew me you would know that is far from the truth.
If the acid was thrown by a bad ET or a wicked one should we just ignore it then?
Jesus was killed on the cross, oh it's ok, he was restored to full health?????
Gail, people come here and go to a lot of trouble to help us, the last thing they want to hear is you rambling on about how crap their post is, it's rude and arrogant, yes you are arrogant!
These posts should go to the Pit; maybe Norval or Bobbi can move them and set up a thread so I can’t be accused of manipulation too.
5. The Document is a communique from ET (that SETI missed), that tells about who, what and the why about us humans, also who, what and why they are here.
I disagree.
Definition: Politics (used with a sing. verb)
1. The art or science of government or governing, especially the governing of a political entity, such as a nation, and the administration and control of its internal and external affairs.
2. Political science.
2. (used with a sing. or pl. verb)
1. The activities or affairs engaged in by a government, politician, or political party: “All politics is local” (Thomas P. O'Neill, Jr.). “Politics have appealed to me since I was at Oxford because they are exciting morning, noon, and night” (Jeffrey Archer).
2. The methods or tactics involved in managing a state or government: The politics of the former regime were rejected by the new government leadership. If the politics of the conservative government now borders on the repressive, what can be expected when the economy falters?
3. (used with a sing. or pl. verb) Political life: studied law with a view to going into politics; felt that politics was a worthwhile career.
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A Monarchy is a government, there are politics involved.
http://www.disclose.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1344&p=21885#p21885
Give us your suggestions and feedback.
http://www.disclose.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1344&p=21885#p21885
Project Avalon Camelot, Banned but not forgotten.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3194&page=11
, , , maybe because they have the wrong "advisors" over at PAC? :lol:
As for OUR research, mine and Gales, besides it being one of the all time biggest draws at PAC, has it's merits in that we did prove that the governments were covering up this Sol System War by ETs and blew the whistle on that cover up. Just maybe that is why it hasn't been moved Kathleen. :bananen_smilies018:
http://www.disclose.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1344&p=21885#p21885
Over the past week, or so, I (we) have received email from several members here about problems in other forums. I have also received email from members of other forums, that are not members here, that are noticing more "problems" than usual of late in the forums.
These are not problems, these are solutions.
Welcome to the "Info Wars" of the web. Yes, there are casualties, there are injuries, as in every battle or war. Gale and I have been fighting this Info War for over 7 years now and we have the scars to show for it. Over these past years we have seen good well meaning people attacked, injured, and even "killed", emotionally. Yet it also takes it's toll on the physical body too, as some well know.
Gale, I, and others have decided to make a stand and fight these ones that want to deceive, slander, ridicule, lie, steal, and disrupt the forums trying to get the truth out to the people. We have learned how to identify and fight them, counter their attacks, even to turn those attacks to our advantage. Yes, we are kicking some butt, here on the web, and we can "read" the effects it is having on our lying, slanderous, jealous, hateful, and loser enemies.
Did anybody here think we would just give our enemies reading in these forums and reading our email the exact information as to how we can do this? We have, but they can't comprehend it. Only those without the "blindness" will comprehend, and that means our enemies can't.
Learn how to identify these enemies, learn their tactics, learn about their "weapons" and then you can fight them, even in their own forums , , , , , and win this Info War!
INFO WARS??????
http://www.disclose.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1344&p=21885#p21885
yOU SIR SHOULD HAVE DELETED MY ACCOUNT WHEN I ASKED!
here yah go, , go with the flow, , , ,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBXf2PB3rDw&feature=related
http://www.disclose.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1344&p=21885#p21885
Turning off registration?
It is being discussed that we should turn off auto registration and have new prospects for membership send us an email with their choice of user name and reason for wanting to join. We would then set up their account and send them a temporary password.
What say you?
http://www.disclose.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1344&p=21885#p21885
REVENGE IS A DISH BEST SERVED COLD!
http://www.disclose.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1344&p=21885#p21885
Norval
03-18-2009, 05:32 PM
Now that's a done bun, as Gary has said.
Sorry I didn't move this when you asked me to yesterday Gale.
Gary is now a Prisoner. He was under suspicion of being an "agent", or a bet, of some kind for a long time now. We allowed him to continue for a time because we wanted his methods well documented for evidence of tactics in this Info War. I intend to explain that in greater detail soon. But not here.
Gary, care to share the proof and evidence of what you are saying about Gale and Disclose TV? Got the ISP addresses? Any facts? Or, did you just go off the deep end, again?
Well Gary, you have gone and out done yourself this time.
You send me the link to your thread at disclose tv in conversation on my profile 01-27-2009 02:53 PM to quote my reply on 01-28-2009 07:31 AM:
I read the entire thread, 11 pages and 107 posts. Wow you did good! Alexrubic’s on your ass the whole way with his electric theory. Just remind him of the two things that make the electric theory null, distance and vacuum. Some of the wording looked very familiar, good job, you held your own ground and didn’t let slushpuppy or alexrubic walk all over you. I am impressed and that doesn’t happen very often. I know it doesn’t mean much but it does to me.
I just read through that thread at disclose tv from page 11 on wards. Seems you are going off on some poster anse777; you are claiming they are me. :rolllaugh:
Do you have any idea how much of a fool you look like? I am not a member at disclose tv.
But I find it very interesting that on page 12 a poster "basil" posted Norval's and I research 2003 summary page 2 word per word and you as Gaz asked for a link. When you admitted some time ago as posting as a "basil" on another forum, so your posting with yourself?
Then you sucker Swami and corleone to that forum.
I will tell you this Gary, I am not a poster at that forum and you owe anse777 a huge apology.
Now that's a done bun, as Gary has said.
Sorry I didn't move this when you asked me to yesterday Gale.
Gary is now a Prisoner. He was under suspicion of being an "agent", or a bet, of some kind for a long time now. We allowed him to continue for a time because we wanted his methods well documented for evidence of tactics in this Info War. I intend to explain that in greater detail soon. But not here.
Gary, care to share the proof and evidence of what you are saying about Gale and Disclose TV? Got the ISP addresses? Any facts? Or, did you just go off the deep end, again?
Oh I'm not your prisoner, I asked you to delete my account more than a week ago, I guess you didn't cause you hardly have any members left, maybe your the agent or the bad ET, as I have been suspicious of for a long time, I would love to debate this further Norval but not here, why should you have home field advantage, lets go discuss it all out there in the open, on my blog perhaps, maybe we might just discuss your methods of tactics in this open info war?
Let me know when you are ready.
Oh I'm not your prisoner, I asked you to delete my account more than a week ago, I guess you didn't cause you hardly have any members left, maybe your the agent or the bad ET, as I have been suspicious of for a long time, I would love to debate this further Norval but not here, why should you have home field advantage, lets go discuss it all out there in the open, on my blog perhaps, maybe we might just discuss your methods of tactics in this open info war?
Let me know when you are ready.
Sorry, as for proof, well I have just about as much as you have, which is not very much!
Norval
03-19-2009, 09:37 AM
Gary,
No, you are not "my" prisoner.
Why should we delete your account?
You helped us set up this Prisoner part of the forum for the ones to question why they have been sent here. Have you changed your mind about the fairness of that?
This is the third time you have been a liar about Gale.
It's here for all to see the kind of drama and shit you are constantly trying to stir up.
STDD Same Tactics, Different Day.
Gary,
No, you are not "my" prisoner.
Why should we delete your account?
You helped us set up this Prisoner part of the forum for the ones to question why they have been sent here. Have you changed your mind about the fairness of that?
This is the third time you have been a liar about Gale.
It's here for all to see the kind of drama and shit you are constantly trying to stir up.
STDD Same Tactics, Different Day.
You should delete my account because I don't want anything more to do with you, Gale Smart and your forum! Just close it down and we can all go about our business, I will leave you alone and you can leave me alone, simple, or we can let it get ugly which neither of us want, what do you say Norval?
Norval
03-19-2009, 12:42 PM
This is my business, doing research on ones like you Gary, learning their tactics and methodologies of forum disruptions. Go for ugly, if that is what you want to do, nobody here stopping you. I left you alone along time ago Gary.
What do I say Gary? I say you have no honor or personal integrity, I say you are a liar and a slanderer and the posts are here to prove it to anyone that can read. :)
This is my business, doing research on ones like you Gary, learning their tactics and methodologies of forum disruptions. Go for ugly, if that is what you want to do, nobody here stopping you. I left you alone along time ago Gary.
What do I say Gary? I say you have no honor or personal integrity, I say you are a liar and a slanderer and the posts are here to prove it to anyone that can read. :)
I suppose you will be cursing me in the name of Jehovah as well, how can any human being curse someone in the name of Jehovah??? unless you are soooooo arrogant?? tell me, and as for a liar, tell us more about about the night before 9/11 when all the agents where hiding around your boat, hahahah, you live in your own cocaine fantasy man, hahahaha!
I suppose you will be cursing me in the name of Jehovah as well, how can any human being curse someone in the name of Jehovah??? unless you are soooooo arrogant?? tell me, and as for a liar, tell us more about about the night before 9/11 when all the agents where hiding around your boat, hahahah, you live in your own cocaine fantasy man, hahahaha!
You are a loser Cunningham and it's gonna show now, like the time with Michael, you don't have the balls for a fight, you are a wimp!
Norval
03-19-2009, 01:06 PM
,,,,,,,,, yawns,,,,,,,,
Thanks for all yer help. :)
,,,,,,,,, yawns,,,,,,,,
Thanks for all yer help. :)
Get me off this forum tonight!
Norval
03-19-2009, 01:12 PM
, , , , all you have to do is stop posting. Your choice.
You are not a member anymore.
You are this,
Prisoner (Former Contributor)
, , , , all you have to do is stop posting. Your choice.
You are not a member anymore.
You are this,
Prisoner (Former Contributor)
No Norval, I want to be removed, you can keep the posts, but I go tonight, thats the deal! Don't let me down now.:bananen_smilies079:
No Norval, I want to be removed, you can keep the posts, but I go tonight, that's the deal! Don't let me down now.:bananen_smilies079:
And stop being smart, smart doesn't suit you!
Norval
03-19-2009, 01:46 PM
, , , and I just moved all the spam posting tactic to your prisoner thread here too.
Thanks again for all the help Gary. :)
Norval
03-19-2009, 01:47 PM
, , , , you can stop posting anytime yah want.
, , , , you can stop posting anytime yah want.
I stopped posting two weeks ago you moron, I want my name gone from Earth's Banner, I don't want anything more to do with a cocaine sniffing, cannabis smoking, whiskey drinking, cigarette smoking addict, telling me how I should follow Jesus!!!!! And certainly telling the world I'm a bad ET!
nOW REMOVE ME FROM THIS FORUM!
I stopped posting two weeks ago you moron, I want my name gone from Earth's Banner, I don't want anything more to do with a cocaine sniffing, cannabis smoking, whiskey drinking, cigarette smoking addict, telling me how I should follow Jesus!!!!! And certainly telling the world I'm a bad ET!
NOW REMOVE ME FROM THIS FORUM!
Battle of witts Norval, two go in one comes out, are you there?
This has just recieved an RSS Feed not to mention Twitter, I will keep going till you remove me from this forum!
http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-hard-it-is-to-leave-forum-be-warned.html
This has just recieved an RSS Feed not to mention Twitter, I will keep going till you remove me from this forum!
http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-hard-it-is-to-leave-forum-be-warned.html
Well Norval, the only comments being well documented, are yours!
₣яэđĸĊ
03-19-2009, 08:11 PM
Jeez! I hate this stuff. I'm still wondering why I even clicked.
But, as long as I did...
You should delete my account because I don't want anything more to do with you
there is a simple fix for this.
1. Click the small box in the top right corner marked "X".
2. Stop posting that you don't want to post here anymore, and simply stop posting here.
Sorry, it's the best I can come up with. But, maybe someone smarter has a diff solution.
Thanx, I'm done
Fred.
It seems Gary is over his hissy fit, well for now that is.
Or until the next one.
Zenbuoy
03-22-2009, 06:07 AM
simply stop posting here.
Thanx, I'm done
Fred.
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:hail:.....:dito:.....:congrats:.....:thumbup1:... ..
It seems Gary is over his hissy fit, well for now that is.
Or until the next one.
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It seems Gary is over his hissy fit, well for now that is.
Or until the next one.
It seems your comments are falling on deaf ears!
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Norval
03-23-2009, 09:26 AM
In today's modern world of "legalities", very little justice can be found.
The tactics that Gary has attempted to use against all of us are well known of the bad ETs. Does that make him one of them? An evil alien? The tactics he has used are known of bets, not agents. Agents, usually of governments, are very knowledgeable about the topic that they will attempt to discredit someone on. This has not been the tactic being used against us. That takes us to the questions about the kind of attack that was used and it's source.
Slander, insults, lies, deceptions, twisters of words, and trying to play on one's ego and vanity are some of the more marked tactics of bets. Now these attacks can come from many directions and ways, but their source is a jealous loser bad et.
Be it oh so wise to think before you speak.
Where did the thought come from? Was it your thought, or was it given to you? Why did you attack Gale with NO REAL EVIDENCE? Bad thought, bad idea, wrong action. This is typical of what is known as being influenced by either a bad heart (attitude), or coming from an outside source. Influence by bets is very common, and if not stopped it can lead to possession of someone. Some would just call this a mental condition, bi-polar, and so on and whatever, as long as you don't mention that they may have been, or are being, influenced by an evil alien being by the means of advanced technology.
If that is the case with Gary, what are the options?
When one finds cause of wrong doing by another, it is stated that you go to them and, , , , well read the book, , , ,
Maybe Gary will explain what started this in the first place, , , , ,
Well, firstly I have made a dreadful mistake, I have apologized to anse777 and we are friends again, luckily.
Where did that little thought come from, "anse77 is Gale Smart", well I think we all know, it's a demon, yes but don't be shocked we all have demons, Mr Cunningham will be the first to admit.
Be it oh so wise to think before you speak. I didn't, I jumped in with both feet, it does seem to be a recurring theme with me recently, something I will have to work hard on to overcome because emotion seems to be a conduit for my demon to come forward with me.
I have had a life of problems with my demon, drugs, drink, addiction but, I have managed to show character and beat them all but my demon will never give up and I will probably have to show great character many more times yet and I will definitely have to learn to think before I speak but I will keep learning.
Slander, insults, lies, deceptions, twisters of words, and trying to play on one's ego and vanity.
Apart from accusing Gale Smart of being a sockpuppet, which was wrong, the rest as far as I'm aware is true, Norval, you have yet to confront your demon, you are still using drugs, getting stoned, drinking, you often have some lines of coke I'm sure you told me, you don't see anything wrong in it, apart from it twisting you personality and being illegal and as an ex coke addict, I know for sure, it's not possible to have the occasional line, same with the cannabis.
Your both incredibly arrogant as far as I'm concerned and if you had "thought before you opened your mouth" this situation would probably never have happened.
Your Bible knowledge is incredible but your people skills are rotten, most people make something from nothing, you have managed to make nothing out of something, your forum is dying but with all your combined knowledge you both can only let it die, it is very sad.
Maybe Gary will explain what started this in the first place, , , , ,
Well without doubt it would be moments like this,
Originally Posted by Gale
Sorry Zen but Michael Tsarion is so full of crap his eyes are brown. He lifts no veil off an agenda. He is an insult to intelligence.
And this....
Remember this, Gary, you can post and type till your fingers bleed about atrocities that occur daily, what is your point? Elicit sympathy?
And this.....
Debbi is now a "Prisoner" because of religious deceptions.
Debbie and any who want to question our actions may do so here.
I would like you to answer my question now Norval, I don't want to be associated with you, Gale Smart or your forum, I am not contracted to you in anyway, so why wont you delete my account?
I know you don't want to lose me but hey, it's over!
Cute, and on topic, ,:bananen_smilies064:
I want to tell the folks allso that Mr Cunningham and Mrs Smart had the arrogance to believe they where the two Gods final witnesess, yes folks, this is what Mr Cuningham secretly believes,
This from Mr Norval himself!
From amongst mankind many are Called, but, few will become Chosen. They are rare indeed.
BETs are not of "mankind", they are ETs that refuse the Kingdom Government and are hell bent on destroying mankind.
There are hundreds of ones claiming to be the two witnesses, so too, ones claiming to be the Elijah like prophet for the end times. As for this Weinland and wife, well, they are amongst about a dozen ones there in Israel claiming to be the two witnesses. Some the government have kicked out already. From the research I and many others have done, that is not the place the two witnesses will show up. Also, you will not see them on any of the MSMedia, as that will be prevented, I am sure.
Gale
Just another Religionist that writes books.
If you want to learn about the 7 Thunders, buy his book, r-i-g-h-t!
WRONG!
nORVAL
Quote:
Just another Religionist that writes books.
If you want to learn about the 7 Thunders, buy his book, r-i-g-h-t!
, , , and all I can add to this is, THROW UP SMILEY
wrong
Smart
And your not? This last war will be the result of clashing religions and the governments they sway
This last war has nothing to do with religion, so as long as Weinland has his feet grounded in religionocity he is just adding to misdirection and confusion.
You are a pair of baffoons! IMHO!!!!!!
Hey buddy, how are you?:bananen_smilies095::bananen_smilies095::banan en_smilies095:
corleone
03-23-2009, 04:19 PM
Norval
03-23-2009, 06:04 PM
, , , glad to see yer having fun, , ,
Weinland Watch, We Had No Fear Of Death (http://weinlandwatch.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/we-had-no-fear-of-death/)
Thanks for your comment. Please continue to keep looking for answers, whether you decide to join the CoG-PKG or not. (I for one hope you do not.)
:rolllaugh: :rolllaugh:
Please visit my blog,
http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2008/02/e-mail-from-ronald-weinland.html
Gary
26 Feb 08 at 6:39 pm
advertising, advertising, advertising :spam:
Does anyone know this Gary/Gazbom guy?
Is the Gary posting here just a pimple faced university student?
MySpace Gary Gazbom
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Does anyone know this Gary/Gazbom guy?
Is the Gary posting here just a pimple faced university student?
MySpace Gary Gazbom
MySpace Gary Gazbom (http://www.myspace.com/gazbom)
Don't give up your day job, HAHAHA!
We can all play these games, Mrs Smart!
Well, Norval likes us to swallow lots of stuff. Bullshit mostly. Let me answer on his behalf.
“ Please allow me to ask a few questions:
What are you waiting to be disclosed, and why is it inevitable? ”
That there are good and bad ETs on earth, and the revelation is all wrapped up with some Judeo Christian mythos he's spun.
“ Why do you think ETs are on Earth? ”
Because he thinks there was an intergalactic war, and there are visible bomb craters on otherplanets to show this. They are actually strikes from tidally disrupted comets and meteors, like SL9, but Norv ignores the facts and jumps straight to conclusions without any facts.
“ Do you really think that humans fall into such distinct and easily definable 'good and bad' groups? ”
He does, because he's basically a warped christian. So Christian = good, non christian = bad.
“ Why do you assume that aliens do? ”
Because of the war, silly! One side was good, you know, like the good christian allies in WWII, and the other side are evil, like Darth Vader and his cronies. Sorry, I meant Nazis. No, Viet Cong. No the Koreans. Whoever it was that Norv was fighting when he lost his marbles.
The guy is a loon, plain and simple.
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=49071&highlight=norval+cunningham
What do you call it, "same tactic, another day"something like that?
Deranged attitude?
How about running around telling everyone that craters on another planet are made by aliens from some intergalactic war. Try telling that to a psychiatrist without him making a padded room booking for you.
Anyhow my point is made, everytime I complain about yours or Norvals behaviour, you open an entire thread stating your disproval. It Definitely proves the "seeking attention" statement.
Meanwhile,
I wish I could be more tolerant, however their BS is really about Trolling. I can understand that some people that "See things" or "Believe in things" don't necessarily agree with my statements but I hope they understand it's mearly due to the nature of discussion, they have their view and I mine.
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=56269&highlight=fieryice
07-15-06, 08:11 PM #1
“ Stryder:
Norval & Fieryice,
We only tolerate your lunacy around here because if people were to outright kick your butts out, you'd be drivelling some nonsense about how your "Freedom of Speech" was imposed upon.
I've noticed with most of your recent posts that your not here for discussion, you're just here to stir people up be they people that have some unusual belief or story to tell or hardline skeptical that just get annoyed at any of your nonsense.
Quite frankly your crater theory and website coincidentally I'm not even going to talk about purely because it's a complete crock. All this STDD just identifies that yourself and Fiery are trying desperately to sensationalise yourselves, in fact thats probably the reason you have a nasty habit of trying to upset admins across multiple forums.
An entire analogy of your activities here and across the net would suggest that you are Attention seekers that are looking for acceptance in a community that in certain respects actually would prefer you to hang somewhere else than aid them with their proof. (You act more like debunkers than anyone skeptical by "acting up".)
I wouldn't be suprised if your overall plan for world domination included trying to create a failed best seller using your infamy for souring forum moderators as a method of creating you a "cult following".
So quite simply you to, save your BS for someone that actually might buy a book from you.
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=56269&highlight=fieryice
It's funny the guy above should mention you are trying to create a cult following, just before the split with Michael Bennie he warned me to stay away from you both because you where trying to form a cult following, hahaha, a cult following of around 20, way to go!
Norval
03-24-2009, 03:22 PM
, , , , , , , , yawns, , , , , , , , "click"
zorgon
03-24-2009, 08:26 PM
Well children... when we are done bickering...
How about a preview of things to come?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uBU409Uxw
Now then doesn't this petty squabbling seem PUNY in comparison?
Hmmm?
You are quite right Zorgon, maybe you could mention to your American friend I do no longer wish to be a member, or prisoner of this forum and all this nonsense could be stopped if he deleted my account!
Craterchains and catenae: cosmic war or cyber crap?
by Carl T. Feagans
Norval typically took this opportunity to point out the "odds" of these meteorites actually striking in this manner to be too great for chance, likening the occurrence of "rolling dice" and getting the same number each time, and attempting to discount tidal forces as being mathematically improbable. Yet Norval never was able to demonstrate the actual math upon request. There was at least one occasion in which Gale, who typically chimed in as Norval's "straight man," followed up the math request with a copy/past link to a math website with some unrelated formulae on it.
When Bottke's (and others') research was pointed out, Gale almost always retorted that Bottke was wrong, but never demonstrated why. She would only point out that Bottke pulled his website, therefore he couldn't be serious. The fact of the matter was that Bottke made a geographical move, which meant moving his website to a new server.
On their website (craterchains.com), Norval writes on the first page about the obstructions to their speculation he and Gale experienced as they use their screen names, CraterChains and FieryIce, respectively, to put their speculation on the floor of discussion for various message boards on the internet. Their most successful run of discussions appeared to find home on sciforums.com. There, the administration and moderation team is very tolerant of speculation as long as it remains in the Pseudoscience forum and the speculators can tolerate the sometimes vehement criticism of skeptics.
On PhysicsForums.com, however, Norval and Gale apparently bit off more than they could chew and suddenly backed out of all discussions after their topic was moved from a mainstream science forum to the "Skepticism and Debunking" forum. As they did so, Norval deleted all of his posts, leaving behind only the phrase "[n]ot playing your games." Gale quickly followed suit. On BadAstronomy.com, Norval and Gale ran into similar problems, only they earned permanent bans for rude behavior and refusing to acknowledge warnings from the Moderators. Bad Astronomy is a site run by Phil Plait, an avid skeptic and author of the book, Bad Astronomy (2002, published by Wiley), which characterizes misconceptions and misuse of astronomy and cosmological issues in the media and other places, such as the internet.
Norval and Gale had their best run at sciforums.com, a message board site run by Dave Watanabe of Melbourne, Australia that bills itself as "an intelligent community." Overall, I think Dave's site is a very intelligent community, but sub forums like Pseudoscience and Religion can get pretty heated. Norval and Gale repeatedly complained about the "disinformation agents" and the "information control" that occurred there, but as a participant on that forum, I only noted that several pointless discussion topics were closed by moderators, particularly if there were duplicate topics. Norval and Gale had several discussion topics that went this route, and it was an obvious irritation to them.
But their insistence that their critics were "disinformation agents" seemed more a part of their drama tactics to goad their critics to respond. Norval and Gale seemed to revel in arguing, particularly when they felt they could raise a point that couldn't be tested and therefore not disproved. To their credit, they were never "banned" from the sciforums.com site, they simply stopped posting there. It would appear that they grew tired of having to defend their hypothesis and, indeed, a portion of this article was posted there just prior to their absence.
A third reason for this article
Eventually, Norval and Gale will pop back up on the web. They'll find a new message board to start all over again with presenting their "findings." In so doing, someone on that board will google "craterchains" or a related phrase. When they do, they'll also get this article and, perhaps, have some real information with which to use.
Update (5/22/05):
Near the beginning of 2005, Norval and Gale posted a message on their website that they were discontinuing "investigation" of crater chains and have yet to resurface. Perhaps they had enough skeptical query and critical reasoning being applied to their "theory." But they leave us with this statement (reproduced here in accordance with Fair Use):
It has been agreed upon by Norval L. Cunningham and myself, Gale Smart that no further research update on the web pages will be posted. Furthermore no subsequent findings will be publicly displayed on the research web sites. This is our response because of the tactics used against this research for information acquisition and control. These tactics are being used against all that seem to be asking the right questions looking for truth. The real key is information acquisition.
It seems Gary is over his hissy fit, well for now that is.
Or until the next one.
WOW! You have been having one or two(hundred) hissy fits of your own, you guy's have literally been kicked off of every forum you have ever been on.
Same tactics different day eh, Norval?
Shouldn't fieryice have been fierytemper? more appropriate, was that the bad ET bit coming out?
Reply to poor old Cookie????
You just never learn do you! Have you got a brain disorder or something, whats going on in your head? Well Norval, that's another one gone, the Canadian Rottweiler will no doubt bite some one else tonight...........
Re: Cookie's Ideas on Time and Dimensions
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I don't know how you can make statements like that and keep a straight face.
Obviously.
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What makes your thoughts so much more worthy than mine?
Ask the PTB that question.
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Christians, I'm sure, would think that your research of the bible borders on insanity.
That is quite true, but, how would that concern me? Old wine skins burst with new wine.
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Do you actually think that "Jesus is coming back in a huge UFO" is any less new age crap than what I'm wanting to discuss?
Yes. Or do you expect him to return riding a donkey?
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In the short time that I've been a member here, I've been an active, contributing member, but, I can see that my ideas are not wanted or needed.
Nope, that part of the research was done along time ago. Guess you should have read up on all of it.
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You think I'm a new age flake that talks a bunch of bs and 'crappola'.
Pretty much as the shoe fits.
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I won't be disrespected by you or anyone else on this forum.
oooops, too late.
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As another member is treated as something dirty underneath Mr Cunningham's sandal and the few members left, look on, in dismay and dread at the prospect of starting a new thread........................
I would like to draw to your attention the strange case of anse777, whom I had a hunch was secretly Gale Smart and as a result I ended up here in this pantomime prison cell!
Well, I was wondering why we hadn't heard anything from said anse777 for a while on Disclose TV, so I decided to visit her profile.
She was posting 5 times a day since she joined on Monday March 9th, ironically just after Norval and I had our disagreement.
She last spoke to me on Sat, March 21st at lunch time saying everything was cool after I had apologized.
An hour later she logged out and has never been back since! All a little bit coincidentally wouldn't you think?
As I have told you before, I am not a member of disclose tv. My isp wouldn't match, so you are still making an arse of yourself.
Norval
03-27-2009, 12:09 PM
No evidence, case closed.
Edited to add;
As of this date there has been NO EVIDENCE provided per our request.
The accusations, slander, and lies remain unfounded and unproved.
Gary has emailed me several times, lying and slandering us, stating he has the evidence, but he never has shown it. Why?
The tactics Gary has used were those of attempting to offer fame and fortune, an appeal to my vanity and ego. As you all have discovered I personally do not care how many hits a web site gets, as it's the quality of those hits that count and where those hits come from. I do not care how many posters post, or how many posts they make, it is the quality and
content of the posts that are of value to us all. Or not.
Gale and I have spent the better part of the last few years researching the tactics of our enemies in this Information War of the ET / UFO Bible connection. We have developed counter tactics and the necessary weapons to fight back.
More than enough time has been given to allow for any and all to come forth with evidence, fore or against, thus we close this matter till we have reason to reconsider, if any.
EDITED TO ADD;
Email from gary walton, Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:04 AM
To Norval
Subject; Humble apology.
Dear Norval, Bobbi and Gale The last couple of day's I have been finding it very hard to come to terms with the hatred and bitterness I aimed at you three. I was vile and you don't deserve it, I am obviously not in complete control of my emotions and have been acting very strangely indeed.I am not offering up any excuses, I meant everything I said at that moment, it's only in the cold light of day I realise what a completely dangerous and malicious person I have become to myself and others.I hope somehow you can find it in your hearts to forgive me and I wish you all the luck with your wonderful and truthful quest.
Gary
Note;
Humble apology.
There is NO apology.
Bobbi
03-31-2009, 11:37 AM
Email from gary walton, Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:04 AM
To Norval
Subject; Humble apology.
Dear Norval, Bobbi and Gale The last couple of day's I have been finding it very hard to come to terms with the hatred and bitterness I aimed at you three. I was vile and you don't deserve it, I am obviously not in complete control of my emotions and have been acting very strangely indeed.I am not offering up any excuses, I meant everything I said at that moment, it's only in the cold light of day I realise what a completely dangerous and malicious person I have become to myself and others.I hope somehow you can find it in your hearts to forgive me and I wish you all the luck with your wonderful and truthful quest.
Gary
From: gary walton <gazbom56@gmail.com>
Subject: (1) Humble (2) apology.
To: craterchains@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 9:04 AM
Dear Norval, Bobbi and Gale The last couple of day's I have been finding it very hard to come to terms with the (3) hatred and (4) bitterness I aimed at you three. I was (5) vile and you don't deserve it, I am obviously not in complete control of my emotions and have been acting very strangely indeed.I am not offering up any excuses, I meant everything I said at that moment, it's only in the cold light of day I realise what a completely (6) dangerous and (7) malicious person I have become to myself and others.I hope somehow you can find it in your hearts to forgive me and I wish you all the luck with your wonderful and truthful quest. Gary
1. Humble -- hum·ble (hmbl)
adj. hum·bler, hum·blest
1. Marked by meekness or modesty in behavior, attitude, or spirit; not arrogant or prideful.
2. Showing deferential or submissive respect: a humble apology.
3. Low in rank, quality, or station; unpretentious or lowly: a humble cottage.
humble
adjective 1. modest, meek, unassuming, unpretentious, submissive, self-effacing, unostentatious << OPPOSITE proud
adjective 2. lowly, common, poor, mean, low, simple, ordinary, modest, obscure, commonplace, insignificant, unimportant, unpretentious, undistinguished, plebeian, low-born << OPPOSITE distinguished
verb 3. humiliate, shame, disgrace, break, reduce, lower, sink, crush, put down (slang) bring down, subdue, degrade, demean, chagrin, chasten, mortify, debase, put (someone) in their place, abase, take down a peg (informal) abash << OPPOSITE exalt
Verb 1. humble - cause to be unpretentious; "This experience will humble him"
alter, change, modify - cause to change; make different; cause a transformation; "The advent of the automobile may have altered the growth pattern of the city"; "The discussion has changed my thinking about the issue"
efface - make inconspicuous; "efface oneself"
2. humble - cause to feel shame; hurt the pride of; "He humiliated his colleague by criticising him in front of the boss"
abase, chagrin, humiliate, mortify
spite, wound, bruise, injure, offend, hurt - hurt the feelings of; "She hurt me when she did not include me among her guests"; "This remark really bruised my ego"
demolish, smash, crush - humiliate or depress completely; "She was crushed by his refusal of her invitation"; "The death of her son smashed her"
demean, disgrace, degrade, take down, put down - reduce in worth or character, usually verbally; "She tends to put down younger women colleagues"; "His critics took him down after the lecture
2. a·pol·o·gy (-pl-j)
n. pl. a·pol·o·gies
1. An acknowledgment expressing regret or asking pardon for a fault or offense.
2.
a. A formal justification or defense.
b. An explanation or excuse: "The consequence of those measures will be the best apology for my conduct" Daniel Defoe.
3. An inferior substitute: The sagging cot was a poor apology for a bed.
apology
noun regret, explanation, excuse, confession, extenuation apology for something or someone mockery of, excuse for, imitation of, caricature of, travesty of, poor substitute for
3. ha·tred (htrd)
n. Intense animosity or hostility.
4. bit·ter (btr)
adj. bit·ter·er, bit·ter·est
1. Having or being a taste that is sharp, acrid, and unpleasant.
2. Causing a sharply unpleasant, painful, or stinging sensation; harsh: enveloped in bitter cold; a bitter wind.
3. Difficult or distasteful to accept, admit, or bear: the bitter truth; bitter sorrow.
4. Proceeding from or exhibiting strong animosity: a bitter struggle; bitter foes.
5. Resulting from or expressive of severe grief, anguish, or disappointment: cried bitter tears.
6. Marked by resentment or cynicism: "He was already a bitter elderly man with a gray face" John Dos Passos.
adv.
In an intense or harsh way; bitterly: a bitter cold night.
tr.v. bit·tered, bit·ter·ing, bit·ters
bitter·ly adv.
bitter·ness n.
Synonyms: bitter, acerbic, acrid
These adjectives mean unpleasantly sharp or pungent in taste or smell: a bitter cough syrup; an acerbic green apple; acrid smoke.
Noun 1. bitterness - a feeling of deep and bitter anger and ill-will
rancor, rancour, resentment, gall
ill will, enmity, hostility - the feeling of a hostile person; "he could no longer contain his hostility"
heartburning - intense resentment; "his promotion caused much heartburning among his rivals"
huffishness, sulkiness - a feeling of sulky resentment
grievance, grudge, score - a resentment strong enough to justify retaliation; "holding a grudge"; "settling a score"
enviousness, envy - a feeling of grudging admiration and desire to have something that is possessed by another
2. bitterness - a rough and bitter manner
acrimony, jaundice, thorniness, acerbity, tartness
disagreeableness - an ill-tempered and offensive disposition
bitterness
noun 1. resentment, hurt, anger, hostility, indignation, animosity, venom, acrimony, pique, rancour, ill feeling, bad blood, ill will, umbrage, vexation, asperity
5. vile (vl)
adj. vil·er, vil·est
1. Loathsome; disgusting: vile language.
2. Unpleasant or objectionable: vile weather. See Synonyms at offensive.
3.
a. Contemptibly low in worth or account; second-rate.
b. Of mean or low condition.
4. Miserably poor and degrading; wretched: a vile existence.
5. Morally depraved; ignoble or wicked: a vile conspiracy.
vile
adjective 1. wicked, base, evil, mean, bad, low, shocking, appalling, ugly, corrupt, miserable, vicious, humiliating, perverted, coarse, degrading, worthless, disgraceful, vulgar, degenerate, abject, sinful, despicable, depraved, debased, loathsome, contemptible, impure, wretched, nefarious, ignoble << OPPOSITE honourable
adjective 2. disgusting, foul, revolting, offensive, nasty, obscene, sickening, horrid, repellent, repulsive, noxious, nauseating, repugnant, loathsome, yucky or yukky (slang) yucko Austral. (slang) << OPPOSITE pleasant
6. dan·ger·ous (dnjr-s)
adj.
1. Involving or filled with danger; perilous.
2. Being able or likely to do harm.
dangerous
adjective perilous, threatening, risky, hazardous, exposed, alarming, vulnerable, nasty, ugly, menacing, insecure, hairy (slang) unsafe, precarious, treacherous, breakneck, parlous (archaic) fraught with danger, chancy
7. ma·li·cious (m-lshs)
adj.
Having the nature of or resulting from malice; deliberately harmful; spiteful: malicious gossip.
malicious
adjective spiteful, malevolent, malignant, vicious, bitter, resentful, pernicious, vengeful, bitchy (informal) hateful, baleful, injurious, rancorous, catty (informal) shrewish, ill-disposed, evil-minded, ill-natured << OPPOSITE benevolent
Here's a couple more.
Possession
3. possession - being controlled by passion or the supernatural
spell, trance, enchantment - a psychological state induced by (or as if induced by) a magical incantation
4. possession - a mania restricted to one thing or idea
monomania
cacoethes, mania, passion - an irrational but irresistible motive for a belief or action
6. possession - the trait of resolutely controlling your own behavior
self-command, self-possession, will power, willpower, self-will, self-control
firmness of purpose, resoluteness, resolve, firmness, resolution - the trait of being resolute; "his resoluteness carried him through the battle"; "it was his unshakeable resolution to finish the work"
nerves - control of your emotions; "this kind of tension is not good for my nerves"
presence of mind - self-control in a crisis; ability to say or do the right thing in an emergency
Remorse
re·morse (r-môrs)
n. 1. Moral anguish arising from repentance for past misdeeds; bitter regret. See Synonyms at penitence.
Sincere
sin·cere (sn-sîr)
adj. sin·cer·er, sin·cer·est
1. Not feigned or affected; genuine: sincere indignation.
2. Being without hypocrisy or pretense; true: a sincere friend.
3. Archaic Pure; unadulterated.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
To: Norval
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 9:04 AM
Dear Norval, Bobbi and Gale
The last couple of day's I have been finding it very hard to come to terms with the hatred and bitterness I aimed at you three. I was vile and you don't deserve it, I am obviously not in complete control of my emotions and have been acting very strangely indeed.
I am not offering up any excuses, I meant everything I said at that moment, it's only in the cold light of day I realise what a completely dangerous and malicious person I have become to myself and others.
I hope somehow you can find it in your hearts to forgive me and I wish you all the luck with your wonderful and truthful quest.
Gary
I don’t recognize that email as any kind of apology. It did not arrive in my mailbox for me or addressed to me as a personal apology. This shows lack of sincerity.
Gary maintains that he meant everything he said, it is not a matter of forgiveness but judicial. Gary’s accusations go far beyond just name-calling and address my integrity. So as a result I still DEMAND he produce evidence. The same goes for Swami.
This has become a repeating scenario for me with Gary. The ‘oh woe is me’ tactic does not work.
His actions with regard to Corleone’s account was a key breach of security on both their parts.
Gary’s actions, behavior and words have insulted all the forum members, which he still had not addressed.
The danger to others part, well, only to those in his immediate vicinity when he pops.
Norval
05-23-2009, 08:44 AM
Another email from Gary, , , ,
Friday, May 22, 2009 2:20 PM
Well Mr. What's your game?
Most people make something out of nothing, you have managed to make nothing out of something, whats your game? 1 member online, sometimes 2, even maybe 3!!!! Everybody who comes into contact with you behaves strange and acts bizzar, who are you Mr Cunningham? I remember, someone at Avalon wrote Cunning them?? Why can't you control your arrogance Sandy?
You are not who you lead us to believe are you and the Canadian Rottweiler??????
Well, time will tell but you are beginning to show your true alliance!
Gazbom
PS Be seeing you
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