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Norval
02-19-2009, 07:08 AM
Navy Ships = Space Ships?

Since the inception of CBR (Chemical, Biological and Radiological) warfare, most ships are capable of sealing up so tight that they "could become" space ships. Just thinking since these pics were sent to us.

Gale
02-19-2009, 07:31 AM
Are these the only pictures, are there any larger ones?
fascinating!!

That one makes this one look sick.

USN Smartship makes progress, RV Triton (http://www.janes.com/defence/naval_forces/news/jni/jni000608_1_n.shtml)

I found the shipyard.
Austal USA Hosts Keel Laying Ceremony For Littoral Combat Ship (http://www.austal.com/index.cfm?objectid=E576E1C9-65BF-EBC1-2E9D85F51F0B9536)

Gale
02-19-2009, 08:01 AM
How does that ship compare with this ship?

General Dynamics Awarded $208M For Second Trimaran Littoral Combat Ship (http://www.spacewar.com/reports/General_Dynamics_Awarded_208M_For_Second_Trimaran_ Littoral_Combat_Ship_999.html)

unipax
02-19-2009, 01:59 PM
Wow. All it needs is an anti grav drive system.
It does resemble some spaceships seen in our popular scifi films.

My hunch is that real space ships do not share that resemblance quite so much.
Maybe spherical ships, for example

sfth13
02-19-2009, 05:18 PM
I didn't think I'd see the LCS on this forum, lol I have worked on the LCS Freedom the first ship. that already had sea trials and was commissioned.
two teams of shipyard are competeing for the contract. each shipyard builds a ship and the Navy will test each one then place an order for the ship they want, if the Gov. has any money.:rolllaugh: The Ship from Austal does have a very unique hull design. I'm not sure if it was commissioned yet but I think she did go to sea trials. here are two vids from the 1st Ship.

sfth13
02-19-2009, 06:00 PM
info on LCS 1 with a few photos

http://www.navsource.org/archives/15/150201.htm

here's some info on the LCS 2 has a few other photo's as well

http://www.navsource.org/archives/15/150202.htm

Gale
02-19-2009, 06:51 PM
wow sfth13 thanks........

₣яэđĸĊ
02-20-2009, 12:41 PM
Well, consider the fact that, like in space, being at sea suffers very few mistakes, the Navy is oddly the natural choice.

I mean, any govt agency, anal enough to have a 50 page manual for "coiling line" ....

is either going to win the discussion, or pester everyone until they do. ;)

sfth13
02-20-2009, 03:18 PM
Well, consider the fact that, like in space, being at sea suffers very few mistakes, the Navy is oddly the natural choice.

I mean, any govt agency, anal enough to have a 50 page manual for "coiling line" ....

is either going to win the discussion, or pester everyone until they do. ;)

Ha Ha Ha I like that one Fred. and how true it is...

Norval
02-20-2009, 05:15 PM
Right on Fred, , :lol:

Great fun idea, , ,
Grab your favorite beverages and snacks and head for the boat launching ramps at the beginning of summer boating season. Watch the antics of first time novice boaters trying to launch and retrieve their boats. :lol:

₣яэđĸĊ
02-20-2009, 06:55 PM
He heh....

I have a Catalina 22.
Theoretical hull speed is 5.92 knots.
which means, put up the sails, trim it out, and you can make 5.9 knots and have a nice day. Or...

put up the "130 jib", stuff everyone in harnesses, hang 'em out on the edge, push everything to the limit.... and if you don't sink her, you can get almost 6 knots!

So... you put her in the water [hustle bustle, etc] Rig her, put in provisions [more hustle bustle, etc] gas up, run out to the end of the jetti [more hustle bustle, etc], run out the jib, and trim her up. Turn off the engine and...

There comes this point where it dawns on your "inner critter" that once you and the boat have "tuned into nature", even if you jumped out and pushed, there isn't anything else you are going to do that will change a thing.

Then there is this (I swear) audible "click" and every reason or excuse for "hurry worry" just goes up in smoke. I swear it's the best therapy there ever was!

(so much for the Zen of sailing... but I swear it works)

Norval
02-21-2009, 08:22 AM
Interesting info here on the new LCS boats, thanks sfth13. She looked faster and I would have to say that her speed in that video was closer to 60 mph. It was stated that she does "more than 45 mph."

There was a new Navy RORO (I think that is what she was) that came into harbor a couple years ago, sorry no pictures. She looked fast and was obviously built "light weight". Her wake showed that she was water jet propelled and the exhaust told me she was jet turbine powered. WOW, what a heat signature from that exhaust and that was just idling along!

While it is my opinion that there is a no fly zone surrounding the earth these days, from the good ETs above, it gives me doubts that these are space ships too. But I still stand by the idea that they could easily become space craft with the right "drives". Today's war ships can be sealed up tight to prevent contagion from attack.

Hey yah Fred we have a Columbia 22 parked alongside that we really enjoy as a fishing boat / sailboat. I turned Bobbi on to sailing and she loves it.

unipax
02-21-2009, 01:09 PM
Yep, nothing is so satisfying as simply messing about in boats.

Especially sailboats !
But I am not one of those that turn up their nose and say 'stinkpots'.... I like powerboats too, sometimes more than sailboats, like when they rescued my dismasted self one time when I was about 15 in Boston Harbor in my 16 foot Comet. Backstay failed when running for shelter before a squall. SNAP !

So true Norval, about launch ramp follies. Especially the one with the vehicle underwater down the ramp, still attached to the trailer, with the driver frantically swimming after the boat which is drifting downriver.

:RockOn:

₣яэđĸĊ
02-22-2009, 10:46 AM
So true Norval, about launch ramp follies. Especially the one with the vehicle underwater down the ramp, still attached to the trailer, with the driver frantically swimming after the boat which is drifting downriver.

"Dear John;
Your saddles back; but your horse is gone."



I would have to say that her speed in that video was closer to 60 mph. It was stated that she does "more than 45 mph."

A friend of mine, now deceased, spent a hitch "writing backwards on a big sheet of plastic" off the coast of Vietnam in the late 60's.

A nearby carrier and it's two nuclear escorts were given an "urgent" need to be elsewhere. They dropped the rest of their escort, and he plotted them leaving the area at nearly 65 mph. No idea what the event was, but back then, they were limited to a certain speed, unless they were cleared for it, which included a complete search of the sky for satellites.

Boggles the mind, a bit, to imagine a city of 3,000 people, complete with an "airport" and planes going by at 65 mph.

zorgon
02-22-2009, 01:55 PM
Well, consider the fact that, like in space, being at sea suffers very few mistakes, the Navy is oddly the natural choice.

Hehe yawl forget the Enterprise? as in Star Trek? It's a NAVY tradition to name the first of a kind the Enterprise...

Star Trek fleet is a NAVY operation... which is why they have Admirals running things...

If I was nice I could tell you things about the REAL space program today, which is not run by NASA but by the NAVY

As a matter of fact the NAVY just signed one new contract on Feb 18th...

The Lockheed Martin Space Systems Co., Space and Strategic Missiles, Cambridge, Mass., is being awarded a $20,517,264 modification (P00002) under previously awarded contract (N00030-08-C-0100) for the Alternate Release Assembly. This modification increases the total contract value to $760,800,560. Work will be performed in Sunnyvale, Calif., (87.85 percent); Cocoa Beach, Fla., (7.30 percent); St. Mary's, Ga., (2.51 percent); Bremerton, Wash., (2.09 percent); other locations (.25 percent), and work is expected to be completed Aug. 30, 2010. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. This contract was not competitively procured. The Navy's Strategic Systems Programs, Arlington, Va., is the contracting agency.

Clementine Lunar spacecraft was a NAVY/DoD star wars program vehicle mapping the moon in FULL HIGH RES COLOR in 1994

Now why on Earth would anyone think that the NAVY is responsible for land claims on the Moon?

The Naval Research Laboratory is not affiliated in any way with any organization selling lunar property or acreage on the moon. NRL has no involvement, either officially or unofficially, in providing "after-sales service" for the purchase of lunar property from the Lunar Embassy, its franchisees, or any similar organizations. Disputes arising from the purchase of lunar property from such organizations must be resolved with the seller directly.

http://www.cmf.nrl.navy.mil/clementine/clib/

Sorry no color there... that is the public version of the photos :tank:

Here is a Bio clip of a Navy astronaut... holding two of Russia's highest space awards... curious huh?

SPECIAL HONORS: National Merit Scholar; graduated second of 906 in the class of 1972 at U.S. Naval Academy; awarded the NASA Space Flight Medal, NASA Distinguished Service Medal, the Gagarin Medal, the Komarov Diploma, the Los Alamos National Laboratory Distinguished Performance Award, and various military awards.

Gary McKinnon found a list of 'non terrestrial officers' and names of space ships... (alledgedly because the moron couldn't even remember ONE NAME nor understood how to use 'print screen')

Beginning in the mid-1980s, concurrent with the development of space operations and space engineering curricula at the Naval Postgraduate School, the Navy began “coding” officers as space subspecialists. As space subspecialty codes were then assigned to particular officers’ billets on numbered Fleet staffs and at commands ashore, the service began assigning Navy members with matching codes to those positions. More recently, the Navy has begun efforts to build a cadre of “space smart” officers, enlisted personnel and civilian employees.

The Naval Space Cadre is composed of active-duty and reserve Navy and Marine Corps officers and enlisted personnel, along with Navy civilian employees from a wide range of career fields who meet mandatory education, training and experience standards established for a particular certification level. The Navy Space Cadre is a distinct body of expertise horizontally and vertically integrated within Navy and Marine Corps active duty, reserves and civilian employee communities organized to operationalize space

Initial identification of the cadre began in mid-2001 with the standup of the Naval Space Cadre Working Group and culminated in a naval message (NAVADMIN 201/03 DTG211435Z JUL 03) announcing the first 700 officer members of the cadre. These officers were identified by the subspecialty codes of 6206, Space Systems Operations, and 5500, Space Systems Engineering or by the additional qualification designator of VS1, VS2, VS3 or VS4. Identification of enlisted and civilian cadre members is more challenging, as these groups do not have specif?ic space identifiers like the officers do.

Approximately 265 billets are currently identified as space billets. These jobs are in Navy, joint and National Security Space organizations. Space cadre members are currently assigned throughout the National Security Space arena, including the National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Space Architect, National Security Space Integration, MILSATCOM Joint Program Office, as well as in all Navy organizations that deal with space.

High Frontier
The Journal for Space and Missile Professionals
Summer 2004
Available by subscription from USAF Space Command

The NAVY also flew a tether satellite one month after STS75 that was up there two years and they shot lasers at it to test power transmission from Earth to a spacecraft via Laser... the lasers were fired from AEOS in Maui and Starfire at Kirtland AFB

Tip of the iceberg to be sure...

But trust me...

The NAVY runs things 'out there' NASA merely runs Mission Control

Heretic
02-22-2009, 11:33 PM
and for UFO buffs

the Navy and not the Air Force has been the grail keepers of most UFO hard evidence - imagine the UFO/USO activity that must happen over the other 2 thirds of the planet

UFOs & USOs have been spotted by the Navy since way back before the turn of the 20th century, they already had files on this stuff well before Roswell and decades before Bluebook

zorgon
02-23-2009, 12:51 AM
UFOs & USOs have been spotted by the Navy since way back before the turn of the 20th century, they already had files on this stuff well before Roswell and decades before Bluebook

And they have stuff you would call a USO



http://www.npt.nuwc.navy.mil/

NUWC Naval Underwater Warfare Center

Now they also have a division in Hawthorn Nevada

They use underground water passages to the sea. We believe that Monterey Bay in CA is where they enter and exit. Monterey Bay has long had reports of UFO's and USO's as well as towns people talking about strange noises from below ground

Monterey Bay Underground UFO Base
http://www.alienseekernews.com/articles/monerey-bay-underground-ufo-base.html

Here is our evidence of the Hawthorne Detachment
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/02files/Navy_Secrets.html#Nevada




They don't let you stop and take pictures so we did a drive by...





http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/02files/Navy_Secrets_02.html