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Heretic
02-27-2009, 10:39 AM
Copy from Source: Patriots for America (http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profiles/blogs/feds-grant-eminent-domain-as)


FEDS GRANT EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBTS!

Beijing, China -- Sources at the United States Embassy in Beijing China have just CONFIRMED to me that the United States of America has tendered to China a written agreement which grants to the People's Republic of China, an option to exercise Eminent Domain within the USA, as collateral for China's continued purchase of US Treasury Notes and existing US Currency reserves!

The written agreement was brought to Beijing by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and was formalized and agreed-to during her recent trip to China.

This means that in the event the US Government defaults on its financial obligations to China, the Communist Government of China would be permitted to physically take -- inside the USA -- land, buildings, factories, perhaps even entire cities - to satisfy the financial obligations of the US government.

Put simply, the feds have now actually mortgaged the physical land and property of all citizens and businesses in the United States. They have given to a foreign power, their Constitutional power to "take" all of our property, as actual collateral for continued Chinese funding of US deficit spending and the continued carrying of US national debt.

This is an unimaginable betrayal of every man, woman and child in the USA. An outrage worthy of violent overthrow.

I am endeavoring to obtain images or copies of the actual document but in the interim, several different sources both in the US and in China have CONFIRMED this to me.

More details as they become available. . . . . spread the word ASAP.

-------------- UPDATE 1:40 pm EST

Eminent Domain is the power of government to TAKE private property for public use without the consent of the property owner. Under our Constitution, the government can only "take" when providing "just compensation" for what they've taken.

Who decides what constitutes "just compensation?" The government!

Homeowners who felt the government was not paying them enough for property in past "takings" have filed lawsuits. In absolutely every such case, the value placed upon the property by the government was upheld by the courts.

Our federal government has now granted to China, this power to "take"our homes and businesses in the event the US Gov't defaults on its debts. Let's play this out as a worst case scenario. . . . . .

The US Gov't goes belly-up and China comes in and says, "they owed us $2 Trillion in Treasury Notes and another $2 Trillion in actual cash money which is now worthless. We are taking the entire state of Hawaii and the entire state of California in lieu of this bad debt. "

With the stroke of a Chinese chop stick, Hawaii and California -- all the land and buildings in those states -- are now owned by China.

The "taking" would be a "valid public use" because it was "taken" in payment of the public debt!!!!

China could then turn around and declare the value of all that land to be worth. . . . . I dunno, ten cents on a dollar?

For your $200,000 house, you get a Chinese check for $20,000.

Needless to say, the property owners would go ballistic and demand "just compensation" for what was taken. Who gets to decide what is "just?" China! Don't think you got a fair price for what they took? No problem, sue China.

You'll lose.

People who live in those states and own their land outright, might be able to negotiate with China to "rent" back their own property, as long as the property owner continued to pay all his taxes; but the land and buildings would belong to China!

This is what our own Government has just done to us and it is the single most vile act of betrayal in the history of human existence.

------------- SECOND UPDATE 3:48 PM

In early February nine U.S. States began the process of re-asserting their Sovereignty pursuant to the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the US Constitution; declaring null and void any actions by Congress that violated the Constitution.

At the time, I wrote about those state efforts (Here) and wondered why so many states were taking-up such an arcane issue in such a seemingly urgent fashion. I guess now, we know why.

The states were obviously privy to what the feds were planning to do with granting Eminent Domain to China. The states took action to make certain the feds couldn't give away cities or the states themselves!

This situation is going to get VERY ugly, VERY fast as one sovereign power (the feds) try to literally give away the land of other sovereign powers, (the states). This is the type of thing that starts Civil War.

Our present federal government makes the treachery and betrayal of Benedict Arnold look like child's play. Does anyone have any information on this?I am at this time unaware of the validity of this report, but the fact that portions of the Texas Trans Corridor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Texas_Corridor) was going to be owned and run by Spain, it certainly doesn't seem to be much of a leap of logic. And it does explain the rash of 10th amendment sovereignty legislation coming from some 20 odd states now in the last month or two. I was rather suspicious of this legislation and have had my eye on it. I even suspected foul play afoot. But this.....?

OH SHIT MOMENT!

Norval
02-27-2009, 11:27 AM
OH SHIT MOMENT! , , , Indeed!

We all live under authorities most of us don't want yet we accept their governance as there is little left to fight with other than the word. While some are just waking up to Oh Shit moments, or are aware that in general we're all screwed by our governments, some of us have known this was coming for several decades.

Some have been preparing for such times for a long time, while others are just now realizing they had better act or suffer their own choices not to.

Gale
02-27-2009, 07:59 PM
Does this mean we Canadian's may have new neighbors?

₣яэđĸĊ
02-27-2009, 09:58 PM
Does this mean we Canadian's may have new neighbors?
Neighbors hell!! The way I am trying to lead my family, you're liable to have House Pests, or actual new neighbors. I am thinking about leaving this here rathole I've loved all my life, for the sake of my grandchildren.

Next:
Googling, I found a lot of circular references, all quoting each other, or the same source. then this:


then there is the one at ATS:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread440926/pg1

Now, one of the sources for this appears to be someone named "Hal Turner" who I've not heard of, meself, and no one at ATS seemed to speak highly of. I have a registration there, but don't read or post there unless linked to some entry from other places. In the postings there I found this link to his blog:
http://halturnershow.blogspot.com/2009/02/feds-grant-eminent-domain-as-collateral.html
The person who posted it said:
I have a feeling Hal Turner who posted the thread that started this rumor is embellishing... a lot.
here is his blog.

halturnershow.blogspot.com (\"http://halturnershow.blogspot.com/2009/02/feds-grant-eminent-domain-as-collateral.html\")...

and here is the article he linked in the thread.. I saw nothing in there stating that the fed had done this, but please look for yourself.

www.bloomberg.com (\"http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601009&sid=a_dsDz145J_A\")...

he did say it was a response to that article, but no other source was given Most of the rest of the posts seemed to be the usual "reaction/speculation if it's true" type of monkey noise. nothing which furthers the story's credibility... yet.

Now, Googling "sec state clinton china" gets you much news on her recent trip, including this page of stories on it at China Daily:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/china_2009hillary_page.html

But as soon as you put in either eminent, collateral you wind up back at a page of the same circular links. all about the same story.


More in a few minutes... my dinner's ready. ;)
Fred

₣яэđĸĊ
02-28-2009, 12:04 AM
More in a few minutes... my dinner's ready.

Sorry, nothing further for now. Instead I decided to write a reply to the post in Gary's section (http://earthsbanner.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3198&postcount=2) re. the hard evidence of a bomb during 9/11.

Norval
02-28-2009, 12:29 AM
, , , and here I was a waitin for yah to push back from the dinner table.

Here in this area there is abundance for those that are bent on survivin.

₣яэđĸĊ
02-28-2009, 01:47 AM
Hey Norval...

Well, I did some further pokin' around and Googling the subject is circular. Everyone is writing about this, posting the very same article, then posting one of about three sources who all point back to each other...

Is this, or the last, or any of several previous administrationws stupid enough to do this, thinking this will help or succeed? Absofrigginlutely!

Or at least be willing to fool themselves that it's "in our best interest" sufficiently to grasp at this straw, despite any form of common sense? Yup!

Bill & Hillary let Loral Corp. give the Chinese 35 years of missile R & D for roughly $1 million in campaign money, whose only benefit was their continued power. Naturally this benefitted the people, just ask them.

Fact is, any said promise, or the Chinese "holding such paper" is completely meaningless in terms of making substantive changes to the underlying conditions which brought about the nation's financial condition. Chinese know this. Anyone who has ever loaned money to a "lost druggie friend" or even a brother-in-law has the financial savvy as well.

Having said vested interest "on paper", if true, won't change the criteria they'll use to decide whether or not they'll continue to buy our paper.

That will be made based upon what gets them the most power.

The Chinese aren't in this "for the money". They will become Communist, Socialist, Capitalist, even Baptist without hesitation, and change without regret. Whatever purchases the most coin in global power.

Norval
02-28-2009, 06:28 PM
, , , and soon all these governments will be brought to nothing.

:party:

Zenbuoy
02-28-2009, 07:35 PM
Damn. That's some really excellent work gentlemen.

I saw this photo with the accompanying information on Global Research and have used it in several posts. It was mentioned that the flourescent backing was to provide foreign troops a nighttime directional for finding strategic locations.

:tank: