We Accept as Truth?

[Norval]

This is to be a statement of basic truths this forum and web site accepts.

We accept as truth the following;

1. There have been and are extraterrestrial space craft visiting and even crash landing on earth.
2. There are extraterrestrial intelligent physical beings amongst us here on earth, in our solar system and throughout the universe.
3. There have been wars in the past and recently in our solar system by ETs.
4. We are an engineered and created race.
5.

, , , and the list could be added to, so, your ideas?

This is to be a statement of basic truths this forum and web site accepts.

[Bobbi]

We are an engineered and created race.

[Norval]

4. We are an engineered and created race. By Bobbi is now added.

3. There have been wars in the past and recently in our solar system by ETs.
I have added "by ETs." to #3.
Moved the "statement" to the top.

[Cookie]

Organized religion is a social mechanism employed by bad ets to keep the human population subordinate and compliant.

[Norval]

Yes Cookie, that is true, but religion goes far beyond that. as does "spirituality" which stems from religion. So, how to word such a statement of that truth?


From Wiki;
"A religion is an organized approach to human spirituality which usually encompasses a set of narratives, symbols, beliefs and practices, often with a supernatural or transcendent quality, that give meaning to the practitioner's experiences of life through reference to a higher power or truth."

[sfth13]

I would say that religion also divides the people and creates conflict.

[Cookie]

Yes Cookie, that is true, but religion goes far beyond that. as does "spirituality" which stems from religion. So, how to word such a statement of that truth?

I've been thinking a lot about 'spirituality'.. Up until recently, I considered myself to be a spiritual person. Now, I find that being spiritual has as many traps as being religious.. being religious and being spiritual are 2 sides of the same coin. I find comfort in facts... and science is finally starting to play catch up..

How to word such a statement?

Mainstream religion and spirituality are 2 sides of the same coin..
Spirituality is a hidden (occult) form of mainstream religion .. with it's own traps and controls. Could it be that spirituality is a failsafe program employed as a back-up for the continuation of the orthodox religion control mechanism?
To claim that orthodox religion and spirituality are the same and both were created as a control mechanism does not rule out the possiblity of the true Creator and his/her/it's plan for this universe.

[Norval]

, , , hmmmm k, and to add to that maybe, , ,

We agree Politics, Racism and Religion (Spiritualism) will not be tolerated.

How is that wording?

[Cookie]

Amen, Brother!
If we could all 'agree' on these truths, another page will be written..
another reality put into place..

[Gale]

5. The Document is a communique from ET (that SETI missed), that tells about who, what and the why about us humans, also who, what and why they are here.


We agree Politics

I disagree.

Definition: Politics (used with a sing. verb)
1. The art or science of government or governing, especially the governing of a political entity, such as a nation, and the administration and control of its internal and external affairs.
2. Political science.
2. (used with a sing. or pl. verb)
1. The activities or affairs engaged in by a government, politician, or political party: “All politics is local” (Thomas P. O'Neill, Jr.). “Politics have appealed to me since I was at Oxford because they are exciting morning, noon, and night” (Jeffrey Archer).
2. The methods or tactics involved in managing a state or government: The politics of the former regime were rejected by the new government leadership. If the politics of the conservative government now borders on the repressive, what can be expected when the economy falters?
3. (used with a sing. or pl. verb) Political life: studied law with a view to going into politics; felt that politics was a worthwhile career.
4. (used with a sing. or pl. verb) Intrigue or maneuvering within a political unit or group in order to gain control or power: Partisan politics is often an obstruction to good government. Office politics are often debilitating and counterproductive.
5. (used with a sing. or pl. verb) Political attitudes and positions: His politics on that issue is his own business. Your politics are clearly more liberal than mine.
6. (used with a sing. or pl. verb) The often internally conflicting interrelationships among people in a society.

A Monarchy is a government, there are politics involved.

[Norval]

, , , hmmmm k, and to add to that maybe, , ,

We agree Politics, Racism and Religion (Spiritualism) will not be tolerated.

How is that wording?

Well, in a Monarchy, are there any politics? Politics seem needed only when there are "options" in governance. What are the necessary options to be discussed in a Monarchy?

Maybe it should be worded a bit differently then?
How about;?
We agree Bad Governance, Racism and Religion (Spiritualism) will not be tolerated.

But that doesn't quite make the statement for forum conduct.
As this is about forum conduct and discussions I think the word Politics fits best?

[Gale]

1. The art or science of government or governing, especially the governing of a political entity, such as a nation, and the administration and control of its internal and external affairs.

There will most likely be discussions about the Monarchy, the Political Science of the Monarchy. What is a Monarchy, what to expect with a Monarchy, the human Ambassadors appointed duties by the Monarchy. These are science of governance considerations, the politics of a Monarchy. Politics does not imply options as in a demonocracy.
There does seem to be intrigue with monarchy, I wonder if that will also be the case with the Government of the Galaxies?
I do agree with discussions of republican vs democrat and such garbage not being tolerated, the same goes for racism and religion. I think our exposure to this worlds political systems, their behavior, tactics etc would have clouded the real meaning of the word politics. We need to know the political and social etiquette and ethics required of humanity as a member race of the Government of the Galaxies. This brings in the science of sociology also.


We agree Politics, Racism and Religion (Spiritualism) will not be tolerated.

Or have I misconstrued the word politics for government or governance? We do have a section on the forum called "Threads in Forum : Economic - Political News - Views & Parley".

[Bobbi]

, , , hmmmm k, and to add to that maybe, , ,

We agree Politics, Racism and Religion (Spiritualism) will not be tolerated.

How is that wording?

Here's a suggestion - I've done quite a bit of research into this topic and had some issues of my own - and eventually have determined that the Heavenly Kingdom does, in fact, have it's politics. However, nothing that has been deemed as a government, of whatever sort or title it has chosen, on this earth, can hope to duplicate the politics of our Father's Kingdom.

Therefore, how does this sound?

5. We agree that Earthly Politics, Racism and Religion (Spiritualism) will not be tolerated.

What the various governments of this world are praticing and the political views they seem to want to dabble in, is of no concern to us in light of what we are anxiously anticipating to arrive in the form of our Father's politics, which are based on love, His for us and ours for Him.

What do you think?

[Gale]

Why don't we just leave out the word politics for now.


5. We agree that Racism and Religion (Spiritualism) will not be tolerated.

6. We accept as truth that there is one supreme sentient intelligent being, called by different names by different ethnic groups.

7. We accept as truth that there was created by this Supreme Sentient Intelligent being and was born, died and came back to life, a human that this supreme sentient intelligent being called Son.

8. We accept as truth that with our present level of technology can answer questions that have plagued scholars for millennium. Since we can now answer these questions and we can now comprehend, there is a responsibility that accompanies this comprehension. This is what humanity needs to survive the so-called ET invasion going to happen.

9. ......

[Norval]

5. We agree the Bible (Document) is the communiqué from the Government of the Galaxies.
6. We agree that Racism and Religion (Spiritualism) will not be tolerated.

In a complete Monarchy there are no "parties" to discuss. Rule is absolute by the King and those appointed by the King. Yet I agree there will be discussion on many aspects of that government just as today we must also discuss what these governments are doing and going to do.

So, politics are back on the menu folks. :) It is good to see that some have commented about these things. There are hundreds of forums out there for ones to discuss their "religious and spiritual beliefs", to argue if UFOs and ETs are real, to claim ones allegiance to creation or evolution theories. It is hoped that by the time you get to this forum and website you will have made up your mind about those basic things.

These are to be the basic guidelines of forum discussion and intolerance which can be expanded upon in subsequent paragraphs. More comments please, and thank you for all your input thus far.

[Gale]

In a complete Monarchy there are no "parties" to discuss. Rule is absolute by the King and those appointed by the King. Yet I agree there will be discussion on many aspects of that government just as today we must also discuss what these governments are doing and going to do.


We know there can be negotiations for the lessor of the worst, like Ezekiel negotiated for cow dung instead of human dung for fire wood and Abraham negotiated from 50 good people down to 10 good people if found in Sodom the city and inhabitance would not be destroyed.

[Norval]

We accept as truth the following;

1. There have been and are extraterrestrial space craft visiting and even crash landing on earth.
2. There are extraterrestrial intelligent physical beings amongst us here on earth, in our solar system and throughout the universe.
3. There have been wars in the past and recently in our solar system by ETs.
4. We are an engineered and created race.
5. We agree that Racism and Religion (Spiritualism) will not be tolerated.
6. We agree the Bible (Document) is the communiqué from the Government of the Galaxies.
7.

, , , and continuing the discussion.

[unipax]

Just combining some points, as in note taking:

We accept as truth the following;

1. There have been and are extraterrestrial space craft visiting and even crash landing on earth.
2. There are extraterrestrial intelligent physical beings amongst us here on earth, in our solar system and throughout the universe.
3. There have been wars in the past and recently in our solar system by ETs.
4. We are an engineered and created race.
5. We agree that Racism and Religion (Spiritualism) will not be tolerated.
6. We agree the Bible (Document) is the communiqué from the Government of the Galaxies.
7.

, , , and continuing the discussion.

First lets look at some things that have brought you and others this far. At least I hope you all are giving this information some strong consideration in your searching for truth.

In the last six months:
You have learned about bad ETs and good ETs. The Good Neighbor Concept.
That CS crater chains are proof positive of aliens and war in our solar system.
That the bible or Document is the "religionized" (by bets) message from the good ETs.
That there are bad ETs posting in the forums, as well as IAC agents, against the truth.
What the agents' and bets' agendas are and why.

This information puts us all in a group by ourselves. What other forum even comes close?

[Norval]

That sums this up pretty well Unipax, now can we make it even simpler? Keep It Simple, KIS?

With what we now know at least we can recognize most of the forum disrupters by their tactics and methodologies, and as you have witnessed, they don't last very long here on this forum.

I think a short list with a web page for each item explaining them in detail may be a good way of doing it?

[unipax]

Which items,
the numbered ones 1-6

or

the stuff below #7 ?

or both of those groups ?

[unipax]

I think a short list with a web page for each item explaining them in detail may be a good way of doing it?

Sure, good idea.
Whether you mean 1-6 or all items in that post, good idea.

Sounds like you want to organize the info so others may access it more easily.

Great idea.

[Norval]

Yes, items 1-6-7-? We can try to cut them down to just 4 or 5 maybe, by combining
some I think?

Yes, organize the info so as to make the transition from religion / spirituality (feelings) to technological comprehension easier? We can only help those that are not "blinded".

Just thinking, , ,

[unipax]

Sounds great if you're still wanting to get your info out.

I imagine you have webpages in mind ? If you'd like an opinion of them, I can offer that.

I'd like to help look for them but cannot do that right now.

Seems like your own webpages are mostly the only possibilities for the latter 5 items under #7.
Are there any others besides your pages ?

[Norval]

, , , and I am still thinking about these things too, , ,

We accept as truth the following;

1. There have been and are extraterrestrial space craft visiting and even crash landing on earth.
2. There are extraterrestrial intelligent physical beings amongst us here on earth, in our solar system and throughout the universe.
3. There have been wars in the past and recently in our solar system by ETs.
4. We are an engineered and created race.
5. We agree that Racism and Religion (Spiritualism) will not be tolerated.
6. We agree the Bible (Document) is the communiqué from the Government of the Galaxies.
7.

, , , and continuing the discussion.

First lets look at some things that have brought you and others this far. At least I hope you all are giving this information some strong consideration in your searching for truth.

In the last six months:
You have learned about bad ETs and good ETs. The Good Neighbor Concept.
That CS crater chains are proof positive of aliens and war in our solar system.
That the bible or Document is the "religionized" (by bets) message from the good ETs.
That there are bad ETs posting in the forums, as well as IAC agents, against the truth.
What the agents' and bets' agendas are and why.

This information puts us all in a group by ourselves. What other forum even comes close?

[unipax]

This information puts us all in a group by ourselves.

'Us' at this forum being 50 (give or take some) members...
Even double that seems to me way too few if deemed to be all who accept as truth the points in the preceding post, and who are aware of (what I call) the mother of all deceptions.

Therefore I wonder how many others may be in the world who know. I suppose that since many are without internet, some of the info such as the crater chains may not be on their radar, but they could still know of the essential points.

Otherwise, can it be that only online people can know this, and further, that only 50 or so is the actual number?

[Norval]

Welcome to the true reality of the web. Here are a few other questions you could and should be asking too that will help yah get the truth about why no one else knows.

Why is it in real life one or two out of a hundred that have seen the crater chain images don't agree with us, and yet on line it is just the opposite?

There are far more in the world, and online, that know that CSCCs are not natural formations, but that they are weapons strikes of war and they are not man made.

The world is controlled by the BETs, they hold all the keys, they control all the governments, all the institutions, can anyone say "Hack the planet?"

No, we are not alone in what we know and accept as truth, but we are up against a world that is controlled by those that don't want this information out.

[Norval]

Our readership averages around 175, with an update every minute, and includes the search engine bots that deliver our info if it contains the requested wording. Readers include most of the government's security organizations from all over the world. Other than direct links to our pages and forum from web sites that list us as an information source, we get very little new traffic.

After the years, and even decades, of research and searching some of us have come to the conclusion that if ones are not at least up to speed on the basics, it may just be, too late. Why? Because of the incompetence syndrome, or having been struck with blindness, and that was not our decision, some people will now never be able to comprehend or understand, even if you explain it to them in detail, they are intentionally blinded.

[sfth13]

I have noticed it's like a ghost town here lately. but i stop by everyday i can and i always see 100 or more people reading.. no requests for membership just people reading... kinda funny....the world is getting stranger by the day. i get the feeling somethings brewing...the blindness factor is very big, i find it hard to believe that one third knows what's going on...hope everyone is doing well...

[Norval]

I highly doubt that a third of the planet is aware of what is going on, as we are aware. Just because the Document states that "a third" will be brought through the fire, it does not state that they know what is, or was, going on. It only takes a "good heart" to survive and staying out of the line of fire.

Just because someone "knows" what is going on does not mean they will survive. Even though some may accept these things as truth, that does not make them a survivor.

Yes, our readership is high by comparison to many of the other forums that discuss these things, and especially so if one looks at how many posts they get. The few of us that are still posting here are mostly just watching the world go to shit around us. Even Gale and I don't chat on line like we used to. There isn't much to talk about that we haven't already discussed many times over. Besides, we don't offer "games" for members to play either. ;)

[sfth13]

I understand, l I just hope I'm one of the survivors and I get to meet you all in person after it's over...:001_smile: