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₣яэđĸĊ
04-02-2009, 08:10 PM
Hmmmm.....


UFO Hoax Was a Social Experiment
By Benjamin Radford

link to Yahoo Gnus version (http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090402/sc_livescience/ufohoaxwasasocialexperiment). Link to video, on Yahoo's site (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/livescience/sc_livescience/storytext/ufohoaxwasasocialexperiment/31529515/SIG=12mhjvk2p;_ylt=AvqesgBDuPB7M_W4zObFMxGzvtEF;_y lu=X3oDMTE4Z2xmMGIxBHBvcwM3BHNlYwN5bl9zdG9yeV9ib2R 5BHNsawN2aWRlb3RoZWdyZWE-/*http://www.livescience.com/common/media/video/player.php?videoRef=LS_090402_ufo_hoax).

Original copy of story is at LiveScience.com:
http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/090401-bad-nj-ufo-hoax.html

Strange lights appeared over Morris County, New Jersey, on Jan. 5 this year. The bright red lights were first noticed in the night sky by an eleven-year-old girl, who pointed out three lights grouped together, and another pair some distance away.

The lights moved silently and slowly, then disappeared one by one.

The girl's father, a pilot, said he was baffled: "I've been in aviation for 20 years and never seen anything like it." Police fielded calls from alarmed residents, and the supposed UFO made national news.

I examined the case the next day, noting striking parallels between this sighting and the infamous 2008 Phoenix Lights hoax in which flares were tied to balloons. I provided a detailed, point-by-point analysis showing that the New Jersey lights were almost certainly a copycat hoax.

However, many people refused to accept the skeptical explanations offered by myself and others, concluding that alien spacecraft was more likely.

Skeptical of the skeptics

Some UFO buffs ridiculed the idea that this was a hoax, claiming that the movements of the lights ruled out the possibility of flares.

One writer stated that "thousands of eyewitnesses said they saw a giant, solid, triangular object fly over their heads." Often the UFO-theory defenders cherry-picked their evidence and eyewitnesses, for example dismissing those who saw balloons tied to flares as mistaken while giving credence to others who didn't see balloons. (For a fascinating glimpse into the rabid denials offered against the flares explanation, see the readers' comments section of my initial column.)

The case was even profiled on the popular History Channel show "UFO Hunters." Bill Birnes, the lead investigator (and publisher of "UFO Magazine") also dismissed the flare explanation. According to the show, "police say the unidentified flying object was nothing but flares - a theory "UFO Hunters" has already tested and proven implausible."

The show was very influential, with many viewers accepting their conclusions without question.

The case remained open (among many UFO groups anyway), until this week when, on April Fool's day, two 20-something college kids, Chris Russo and Joe Rudy, admitted to the hoax.

"We set out into the woods ...carrying one helium tank, five balloons, five flares, fishing line, duct tape, and a video camera," the duo explain now. "After filling up one 3-foot balloon with helium, we tied about five feet of fishing line to the balloon, secured the line with tape, then tied and taped the flare to the other end of the line. Once all five balloons were ready, we struck the 15-minute flares and released them into the sky."

Realizing that, in the conspiracy-minded UFO community, hoax admissions are suspect, they carefully documented their prank in a series of videos. For all but the outer fringe of UFO buffs who may suspect that those videos themselves were faked, their explanation is iron-clad and proven, case closed.

Social experiment

In a posting at Skeptic.com, the pair said the hoax was a "social experiment on how to create your own media event surrounding UFO sightings...to show everyone how unreliable eyewitness accounts are, along with investigators of UFOs."

Indeed, that point was well made.

On the "UFO Hunters" show, investigator Birnes and his team reviewed footage of the lights, concluding that "these lights are moving without any independent movement... you can almost make out a frame." Yet we know this analysis was completely wrong: the lights were in fact moving independently (tied to balloons in the wind), and there was no frame at all, triangular or otherwise. As Russo and Rudy note, "If a respected UFO investigator can be easily manipulated and dead wrong on one UFO case, is it possible he's wrong on most (or all) of them?"

From red lights in the sky to red faces at the History Channel, this solved UFO case proves that you can't always believe what you see, either in the skies or on TV.

Gale
04-02-2009, 09:05 PM
I examined the case the next day, noting striking parallels between this sighting and the infamous 2008 Phoenix Lights hoax in which flares were tied to balloons.

If that was true then what about the military firing on those lights? If the Phoenix Lights were balloons the military would not be firing on them nor even present at all.

Norval
04-02-2009, 09:09 PM
uh huh, , , well when the truth is known, I hope the liars get their sons a bitchin asses shot off, , , , NOT the kind of neighbors I want around me, , , :)

Gale
04-02-2009, 10:48 PM
Oh gawd I think I have my lights mixed up :surrender: The lights in LA that were fired upon by the military during wartime, ops excuse me :innocent:

unipax
04-03-2009, 05:17 PM
since early 60s my gut said help could come from 'out there', so early ufo sightings represented something potentially good

but since learning of black ops and alien hoaxing etc the sightings and stories are just not so interesting anymore.

Even the regular military gets fooled because they get messed with by the bad guys and their games

Still waiting for the real thing

Norval
04-04-2009, 08:44 AM
Anyone want to "bet" this is just a ploy by the bets to muddy the water? :lol:

Yes, Unipax, we are now in a time when the UFO sightings can be hoaxed. This is only possible with modern technology, yet it can't explain away the past thousands of years of these strange sightings, except by acceptance that "someone" had that technology long before we did.

unipax
04-04-2009, 02:44 PM
Anyone want to "bet" this is just a ploy by the bets to muddy the water? :lol:

Yes, Unipax, we are now in a time when the UFO sightings can be hoaxed. This is only possible with modern technology, yet it can't explain away the past thousands of years of these strange sightings, except by acceptance that "someone" had that technology long before we did.

hear! hear!

Said to be the oldest ufo pic,
1870-Mt. Washington, New Hampshire. This photo is dubbed, "the oldest UFO photograph ever taken." This item was the subject of bidding at Ebay in 2002, when finally the photo was purchased for $385.00 by Samuel M. Sherman, who was the president of Independent-International Pictures Corp. This was originally a "stereo" photograph. Certainly it was difficult to manipulate photos at that time, and remember, there were no flying objects then; at least, not from this world.



above pic also on:
http://www.ufocasebook.com/bestufopictures.html

In Frank Edwards book Strange World there is a story from 1800's of midwest citizens seeing a strange red cloud. Thinly sliced pieces of flesh with short black bristles rained to ground from the red cloud
So many and so varied are the reports from before the age of current black ops.

Bobbi
04-04-2009, 04:43 PM
As was mentioned once before in this forum, (see http://earthsbanner.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66&highlight=charles+fort), there is a set of books that tell of strange things falling out of the sky back in the 1800's, written by Charles Fort, i.e. The Book of the Damned (1919), New Lands (1923), Lo! (1931) and Wild Talents (1932).

Considering the years of publication listed above, his books are quite interesting, to say the very least. They are basically a compilation of newspaper articles, eyewitness reports, police reports, etc., as well as some speculation on his part. I read them all last year and found them to bring forth many "coincidences" that we have only recently been able to comprehend. Additionally, if you will note the years of some of these occurences, they tie in quite neatly with Norval and Gale's timeline of the destruction of Mars.

See more about Fort here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forteana#Fortean_phenomena