sokpuppet
04-04-2009, 07:17 PM
Spiritual & Religious Parley
If you want to discuss "religion" you may do so here.
I am almost fully persueded that in the grand scheme of time, space and intelligence, we modern humans have arrived quite late in the day. My current view of the 'past' is that "we" were created by a process of 'modification'. That modification was quite probably problematic. While part of our inheritance is quite well adapted to this earth, other aspects of the modified human were/are troublesome issues that have most likely been contained by various forms of intervension.
I really don't have a clue if religion is a form of intervention or if it is one of the 'problems'.
This is the first time I've put my head 'on the block' here at this forum and I'm quite twitchy about the responses I might get for saying this.
I have fluctuated between 'problem' and 'intervention' and even had short spells where I've tried on the real religious clothing to see how it feels. Throughout all these I have never got any closer to answering the basic questions in my mind. eg, Where was I before I was born? Where will I be when I'm dead-and-gone? and even more purplexing, Why is all "this" here and happening?
I harbour a belief that there is something I don't know. I don't know if it's a "secret" or if it's just so obviously un-knowable in this life at this present time. I'm frustrated and given to a bit of anger when people start spouting "truths" that I have to take on "trust". The only thing I really trust is this force that is within me.
I'm now in my fifties and have noticed lately that I'm doing far more unlearning than learing. I'm glad about that but recognise that that might just be a stage I'm going through before I start learning again.
I've been listening to Alex Jones quite a lot in the last few weeks. In a way, I feel like a 'brother' of his but I'm definately not a comrade of his. I see Alex as a captive of his own 'power-base' (there's a lot of that about). Christianity, for him, seems to be a 'family' thing. A bit like a kid who uses his 'folks's' home as a "free" base to operate out-of, without having to support it directly himself. Shotgun-shack-Christians are never going to get my vote. New-world-order eugenisists aren't either. BUT, when I have to look at it and reach a 'position' and take up an engagment with 'current affairs', I actually want! a "new world order".
I think the NWO people are going to win the first several "battles". It even says so in the bible. Christians who 'have religion' are now so far off-course that that part of it will be a 'push-over'. It seems to me that there is a massive acceptance, worldwide, for 'the-end-of-religions'. Whether manipulated or not, and it surely is, in my opinion, we're heading for a 'cattle crush' sovietization of our liberties.
That all sound awfull, but, there is a possible good side to it. It's going give an outside force the gift of a chance to act powerfully on distinctively different 'sections of society'. A FEMA camp is a terrifying prospect but it would be a gift of an opportunity for a "space-lift" intervention.
I've said enough and I'm starting to ramble beyond where I intended to get to. I think I'm trying to say that religion is most probably a dead duck, really, but you've still got to have FAITH!
I think religion is:
Other people manipulating my/your/our faith (or whatever you want to call it). Because our faith is so powerful it's a handle to control or guide us with. I'm blindly convinced that when my stay on this earth is over, I will either have nothing at all or I will have faith. If I have faith I will have it in it's purest form without any religion at all. That's my "belief", LOL.
sokpuppet.
If you want to discuss "religion" you may do so here.
I am almost fully persueded that in the grand scheme of time, space and intelligence, we modern humans have arrived quite late in the day. My current view of the 'past' is that "we" were created by a process of 'modification'. That modification was quite probably problematic. While part of our inheritance is quite well adapted to this earth, other aspects of the modified human were/are troublesome issues that have most likely been contained by various forms of intervension.
I really don't have a clue if religion is a form of intervention or if it is one of the 'problems'.
This is the first time I've put my head 'on the block' here at this forum and I'm quite twitchy about the responses I might get for saying this.
I have fluctuated between 'problem' and 'intervention' and even had short spells where I've tried on the real religious clothing to see how it feels. Throughout all these I have never got any closer to answering the basic questions in my mind. eg, Where was I before I was born? Where will I be when I'm dead-and-gone? and even more purplexing, Why is all "this" here and happening?
I harbour a belief that there is something I don't know. I don't know if it's a "secret" or if it's just so obviously un-knowable in this life at this present time. I'm frustrated and given to a bit of anger when people start spouting "truths" that I have to take on "trust". The only thing I really trust is this force that is within me.
I'm now in my fifties and have noticed lately that I'm doing far more unlearning than learing. I'm glad about that but recognise that that might just be a stage I'm going through before I start learning again.
I've been listening to Alex Jones quite a lot in the last few weeks. In a way, I feel like a 'brother' of his but I'm definately not a comrade of his. I see Alex as a captive of his own 'power-base' (there's a lot of that about). Christianity, for him, seems to be a 'family' thing. A bit like a kid who uses his 'folks's' home as a "free" base to operate out-of, without having to support it directly himself. Shotgun-shack-Christians are never going to get my vote. New-world-order eugenisists aren't either. BUT, when I have to look at it and reach a 'position' and take up an engagment with 'current affairs', I actually want! a "new world order".
I think the NWO people are going to win the first several "battles". It even says so in the bible. Christians who 'have religion' are now so far off-course that that part of it will be a 'push-over'. It seems to me that there is a massive acceptance, worldwide, for 'the-end-of-religions'. Whether manipulated or not, and it surely is, in my opinion, we're heading for a 'cattle crush' sovietization of our liberties.
That all sound awfull, but, there is a possible good side to it. It's going give an outside force the gift of a chance to act powerfully on distinctively different 'sections of society'. A FEMA camp is a terrifying prospect but it would be a gift of an opportunity for a "space-lift" intervention.
I've said enough and I'm starting to ramble beyond where I intended to get to. I think I'm trying to say that religion is most probably a dead duck, really, but you've still got to have FAITH!
I think religion is:
Other people manipulating my/your/our faith (or whatever you want to call it). Because our faith is so powerful it's a handle to control or guide us with. I'm blindly convinced that when my stay on this earth is over, I will either have nothing at all or I will have faith. If I have faith I will have it in it's purest form without any religion at all. That's my "belief", LOL.
sokpuppet.