Cyber Attacks Against US Infrastructure

[Heretic]

Ever since Gary McKinnon broke into pentagon computers causing “billions of dollars of damage” (I still can’t say type that with a straight face), it has astounded me that such important network systems are even available to outside Communication systems allowing for such cyber infiltrations. Even Gary says that he saw minor stuff…payroll dept info etc.

Is NORAD, NASA, the DOD, NSA, and other such important systems vulnerable to quasi hackers like Gary…because Gary McKinnon was no hacker of any real ability. He used very simple methods to gain entry into the Pentagon computers, the most basic was using the ADMIN account on the PCs there that the IT techs left un-passworded. (yes if you have no password on your computer’s ADMIN account then you are also vulnerable to such simple hacking methods), and he also used telnet handshakes… all very simple and can be found in the most basic of hacking manuals. (no I don’t hack)

I mean sheesh...if these places the GOV runs like the DOD or NORAD are pretty much invulnerable to outside interference then what is the issue as you already have your solution. The only computers that require the WWW are communication systems only.

I have done some digging after reading on the cyber warfare hitting the MSM press concerning China and Russia messing around with our power grid infrastructure. The reason I did the digging is because this entire cyber security thing is a sham. ANY system as important as the power grid, defense networks etc have internal onsite terminals necessary to access vital infrastructure data and access to infrastructure. Are we really expected to believe there are access points on the world wide web?

I have worked for computer companies that would trouble shoot and repair systems from the complex to the mundane. I talked to people from many departments of the US GOV including FBI systems and I know they have regular PCs for the office workers and such, which are connected to the internet like the public does, but not to deal with infrastructure at all. In fact most FBI offices do not have access to real FBI systems but for maybe one or two sensitive terminals…and even those are restricted to certain personnel. The police Dept have certain computers for certain things and some have no access point on the internet due to the inherited security.

My point here is that if you were able to hack into ANY system of sensitive infrastructure, then it would be minor systems only…communication based systems that rely on the internet to move data only. Not a computer that would turn off power…anywhere. I can’t see how malicious code could even reach sensitive computers without some major breakdown in common sense and responsibility by the creator of these systems.

I see this as a sham…and probably directed towards civilian control and nothing to do with civilian safety. Wouldn’t it be cheaper to simply upgrade the current security system than to create legislation and all the other crap they are pulling with all the fear mongering?

Give us your liberties so we can protect your freedoms….indeed.

[unipax]

what Heretic said

(meaning I agree)

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[sokpuppet]

It's not the power grid they want to shut down, it's the web. The use of the word "CYBER" is going to be a bit like the word "IRAN". Most of the crap they are up to at the moment is really about psycho-linguistics. I DO expect a new "9/11" soon but the bulk of the attack on us is in conditioning us to new levels of blatant lying and of them getting away with it, right there in our faces.

Switching from 'stealth' mode to the 'chase' mode ( as the wild cats do when hunting) requires that they allow us to SEE what they are doing. Preparing us to ignore blatant lies is part of the plan. Since the ink on the bailout bill was still wet, the rules have completely changed. Stealth is no longer required.

We are now in a new phase. The bankers have vanished (gone to safe high ground). That leaves the way clear for a shut-down of the systems we use. The internet is the obvious target. Business is in so much shit precisely because the people 'in the know' knew that something was coming that would clobber the economy very hard. They just packed up their camp and left before it strikes. The MSM is calling it the "credit crunch". Alex Jones is calling it "a stick-up". Whatever you call it, it's pretty obvious what's going to happen next.

Just before 9/11 a lot of people 'in the know' bet that airline shares would drop. This time they're getting out of the 'regular' economy that we normal people function in. So, that means the regular economy is in the sights of the next "stunt".

I don't know exactly what's going to happen but the clues are always in the psycho-linguistic markers. Look how much the word "cyber" has been used just recently and work it out for yourselves.

[Norval]

Here my cans of tobacco (6 oz.) just jumped from $13 to $28 as of the first of April.

No joke.

That more than doubling is caused by strictly one federal tax.

I, for one, am sick and tired of buying these damn cowardly bets new underground housing and clothes.

Yes, economy is going down, , ,

[Gale]

We human's are not obligated to supply childrens clothing from JC Penny's or Sear. Only food and water, other than that those BET's should be on their own. The government programs set up to cater to the surface dwelling Bet offspring, their minions or their Pet's should be discontinued. This includes medical services for their failing/breaking down physical bodies, monthly payments to support their existence on the surface and below.

[Norval]

When one thinks of "CYBER ATTACKS" you would do well to think of the greatest
attack that most "free posters" ain't gots a clue about.

While many are now aware of the government (IAC) agents they don't have a clue about;

The BAD ETs cyber attacks!
And the cost to YOU of those bad ETs being trapped here now.

[unipax]

Some say the web's relative freedom of info is a threat to their agenda.

So here is Jay Rockefeller introducing the campaign against the web "because of the terrorists"



Senator (D-WV) John D. Rockefeller IV
[In refererence to why he believes the Internet should not exist]
Wednesday, March 18th, 2009
Commerce Secretary Confirmation Hearing:




Both the President Bushs' Director of National Intelligence, Mike McConnell who I greatly respect, and President Obama's Director of National Intelligence, Admiral (Dennis) Blair, who I greatly respect, have labelled cyber security, perpetrated through the internet, as the #1 national hazard of attack on the homeland

It almost makes you ask the question, 'would it have been better if we'd invented the internet?'.
You have to work very close live with the intelligence community because it's a question of trying to keep up.
You never get ahead of those who perpetrate violence, this kind of violence against us.
All we can try to do is to get ahead for a little bit, then fall behind. It's a losing game for us. And it's potentially a... catastrophic national event,
and i just -- i just think it's got to be at... the top of your list, and
Americans don't know about it.
We don't believe it's going to happen because that's not the kind of thing that is likely to happen in a place called the United States of America,
but it already has. And it threatens the nation unlike anything else.
More so than... suitcase booms, dirty bombs, plutonium bombs.
This is what threatens us. I lay that down as a major, major subject.
We will be having a hearing tomorrow, having many, many others.
It's that serious.

Above is from the following page, which has also some other interesting posts on the cyber topic.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=94307.80

[unipax]

We human's are not obligated to supply childrens clothing from JC Penny's or Sear. Only food and water, other than that those BET's should be on their own. The government programs set up to cater to the surface dwelling Bet offspring, their minions or their Pet's should be discontinued. This includes medical services for their failing/breaking down physical bodies, monthly payments to support their existence on the surface and below.


Sounds like you're referring to people on 'welfare' or 'the dole'

[Norval]

, , , many of the bets are.

[unipax]

What % of those on welfare you think are bets ?

[unipax]

Take one like Jay Rockefeller above.

From the psychopath thread.....


1. Direct bet physical involvement, IE; sitting at a keyboard typing to YOU.
These includes non-human looking aliens with access to the net.
2. A possessed human. (By a bet using advanced technology to "displace" the human with their own consciousness.)
3. An Influenced human acting on bet prompts or thoughts.

Which if any category of BET would Jay be in ?

[Gale]

Unipax, your questions have already been answered in another thread.


Unipax, why are you so interested in identifying the bad guys when you haven't even read the Document to find out who the good guys are? Without doing that you will end up labeling everyone the bad guys.

That's like trying to get through the doorway without opening the door or get to the holiday vacation destination at the end of the train ride without getting on the train.

Otherwise you will end up just confusing yourself more.
Psychopaths or BETs ? (http://earthsbanner.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4170#post4170)

If you keep this type of behavior up, I will refrain from answering any of your questions. The least you can do is ... is do your homework. I expect this kind of behavior from my kids not from a presumed to be adult.

[unipax]

Ok ok

Favor please,
Point again to relevant passages and on online copy of the document you'd recommend. I got no book.

I looked around in some threads for material about identifying good guys, to no avail.
Would you please point to some again ?
Thnx

[Norval]

*********** no **************

[unipax]

Disregard request please Gale, I found a helpful post.
Thanks Gale.
Thanks Norval.

[₣яэđĸĊ]

Ok, two comments, and then it's Fred's Storytime ;)


Here my cans of tobacco (6 oz.) just jumped from $13 to $28 as of the first of April. No joke.
No, it sure as hell isn't!

Here in Southern Gomorrah, a 6 oz. bag of Golden Harvest, my personal favorite, went from $10.99 to $29.99.
Now that's Change!

I was getting to prefer it, compared to reg cigarettes, too. I didn't get as jittery, smoking. My mouth didn't feel like 4 miles of dusty road at the end of the day, either. On top of that, it doesn't have all the chemicals to make smokes go out, on top of the chemicals they put in to keep it lit, on top of the ones to make it more addictive, on top of... well you get it.

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Ever since Gary McKinnon broke into pentagon computers causing “billions of dollars of damage” (I still can’t say type that with a straight face), it has astounded me that such important network systems are even available to outside Communication systems allowing for such cyber infiltrations. Even Gary says that he saw minor stuff…payroll dept info etc.

I read some of the background articles on the McKinnon thing. He originally broke into a network, within the Pentagon, used by the section that deals with the Pentagon's space systems.

Now, whether or not you believe there is now, ever has been, or ever will be one single being in/on earth, that "ain't us", makes no difference. This is probably the most secret information available to anyone outside the building. Probably some of the most sought after information by any country who either wishes us ill, or would like to kiss up to one that does.

If there are treaty violations, unknown to the other countries on this planet, this is the most likely place to find evidence.


An aside to give perspective;
In an MS-network, there is a security and permissions hierarchy. The way you manage users within a network, is by associating, and gathering them into groups. Bottom to top, to name a few, they are: Users Power Users, Network Operators, Backup Operators, Administrators. You control how much access to the system people have, by placing their login within one of these groups.

Administrators are almost at the top of the heap. There are some thing even they can't do. Above all of these is a login called "Administrator" (similar to "root" on a Linux system). So far as a computer, or a network is concerned, this login is God himself!

Administrator can:
Over-ride any security on a machine. (Administrator on the main network server can do this on ANY server within it's system)
Take ownership of files, thereby denying anyone else access to them.
Delete the operating system, or any and all files.
Format disks.
You get the idea... anything.
Ok, back!
So, we are talking about what has to be one of the top 10 holy of holies, within the Pentagon's Kaput-er network, right?

Get this; When he arrived at the main server for this network, and was asked for a login, he typed "Administrator". On a lark, when asked for a password he merely pressed "ENTER"!

That's Right!! The "GOD" login, for the main server had a BLANK password! Nuttin, Nada, Zip, Zero, NONE!

That meant that ANYONE who sat down at it, or connected to it, could go, do, see, anything they wanted without knowing ANY password. On Top of that, ALL of the other servers in that network were exactly the same! No passwords on the Administrator account.

For those not "kaput-er literate", think of it this way. They didn't just leave the key sticking out of the front door, or go away and leave it unlocked, they completely removed the front door AND left the porch-light on!

If McKinnon had intended them any harm, or just had a wicked sense of humor, he could have changed the password for every other user on the system, then changed (oops! sorry) entered a password for the Administrator, and locked everyone at the Pentagon out of that division's kaput-ers!


If anything, they should be giving this guy a medal!

Also, the next time someone speaks glowingly, in quiet hushed tones, about our nation's security, the "best judgment" of those at the Pentagon, or anything of the sort, you now have the ammunition to spit in their face. ;)

Ok, before this gets too big to post, I'll post this much, then tell a couple Internet Cyber Attack stories.

[unipax]

Amazing.
Gotta ask "Why?" would they leave it that way?

Are you sure of this? Could this be disinfo ?

[₣яэđĸĊ]

Hi Uni;

I don't think so, since it was being used in McKinnon's defense, sorta. That it was basically part of a UK press interview with him, and ...

It's the LAST kind of thing the Pentagon would want known. Including the fact they were ever that stupid!

Not only are they, they historically excel at trying to cover this kinda thing up, with bluster as 1st defense... like prosecuting the unlucky nerd who discovered it?

[₣яэđĸĊ]

If you think the Pentagon doesn't miss much...

This recruiting web page was on their .gov public server during the height of the Iraq conflict:



Or were they really that hard up? (see pointing finger)

Beware the 103rd Division, 103 yr old brigade!!