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unipax
04-08-2009, 01:55 PM
Hey What you guys think of Alex Jones anyhow?
He is now being attacked ie smeared by linking him to the cop killings in pittsburgh, ie the shooter followed A Jones. Word is that the smear is because Jones produced The Obama Deception.

Heretic
04-08-2009, 02:07 PM
Hey What you guys think of Alex Jones anyhow?
He is now being attacked ie smeared by linking him to the cop killings in pittsburgh, ie the shooter followed A Jones. Word is that the smear is because Jones produced The Obama Deception.been reading and watching his stuff for a few years now

I cant say for sure if he is employed by the bad guys

to be honest all I ever got from him was questions to ask which is good

he doesn't seem to be selling any concrete answers either which is also good

he does do some fear mongering stuff...but aren't we all guilty of that sometimes? Hard to draw a line between wanting to wake people up and fear mongering sometimes.

he has helped me learn of important issues and given me new roads to travel down and testimonies to investigate

I think he spins his news so bad that sometimes that he has become the antithesis instead of the synthesis

other than that, I give him a thumbs up...but I take what he says many times with a grain of salt because of his bias

I defiantly wouldn't call him a guru or someone who has it all figured out though...he is only working inside his own arena

Zenbuoy
04-08-2009, 04:26 PM
You know, gentlemen, I can't really figure out who works for who other than the ones who get killed obviously know and do something "they" don't like.

Phil Schneider got killed for exposing the deep underground resorts.
The DC Madam was hanged because she probably the found out the former BET VP had PE (yes, penis envy:pepper:)
Bill Cooper was shot for broadcasting the truth from his home.
The choir director at Obama's church was killed for possibly knowing first hand Obama's non-teleprompter activities.

Bill & Kerry are apparently protected as is Bob Dean.
David Icke is not dead.
Jeff Rense is not dead.
Larry Sinclair is actually still living.
Alex Jones HAS to be doing something that keeps him from being accidentally blown apart.

Bill, was killed, and he warned about the antics of AJ.



If you listen to this you will hear how NUTZO AJ goes on about Y2K... which was not an actual threat. I check him out everyday but this piece PROVES he is capitalizing on FEARFUL warnings.

My problem is that I tend to think well on most people and it clouds my judgement I'm sure. I even like the former wobble unit. Go figure:bananen_smilies077:

unipax
04-08-2009, 05:17 PM
RIP Bill Cooper

and I agree re Alex Jones

good point Zen re Cooper, DC Madam etc

"Dead men didnt lie"

Bobbi
04-08-2009, 06:58 PM
I came across Alex Jones about 2 years ago when he released End Game about the Bilderbergers. I was a subscriber to his website for about 6 months thereafter. In my opinion, Alex is all about inciting rebellion against the U.S. government and the New World Order and exposing their dirty laundry as best he can. He also claims to have deep set religious beliefs.

I wonder if he is able to understand that defeating this current U.S. government is not the solution he hopes to achieve. Quite clearly this current government is inadequate, however, no other earthly contrived government will do any better. It is the heavenly kingdom's government that is the answer. He has knowledge about the governments, but do you think he'll ever put that knowledge and that of the Document together as the answer? I doubt it.

However, he has sucessfully caused quite the "distraction", hasn't he? One must ask, what could he possibly be distracting "from"??????? He could be making sure that those who are blinded to the truth, remained blinded by focusing on other emotionally charged issues, especially those relating to money, power and freedoms. He certainly has plenty to work with lately, doesn't he? Mob mentality is a very dangerous thing and can quickly get out of control, sometimes beyond sanity and/or recovery.

:sigh1:

unipax
04-09-2009, 04:32 AM
Good stuff Bobbi thnx.

(tangenting off now, to Norval & Gale and you, and whoever else might stumble in and listen a bit b4 fleeing)

From all walks of life good people awaken and stand up and speak from their level of understanding if they are ready, willing and so compelled.

As I kinda mighta did in other EBforum threads today, I gotta ask, and I think the crucial question universally approaches;

Would Alex Jones (or whomever) be intentionally and consciously serving the BETs as a willing NWO/BET gatekeeper, steering people away from the higher truth, or is he just doing his heart's best for truth and awakening others, operating at the edge of his mind's envelope, ie his (it's key) level of awareness ?

Something like that question has to be my measure when it gets down to the gritty of assessing supposedly good voices.

My hunch is the latter, ie he has a good heart and he is operating at his mind's limit. For one reason, it is the fervor I sometimes see in him on video.
(unless of course it is an act. Is it?)

Having said that.....
I think that for A Jones, and for the ppforum poster Anti Illuminati, and for...well, many other sincere Paul Revere types of today...they might choke just a wee tad bit on hearing about secret space programs and claims that evil Luciferian aliens warred on Mars long ago and got cast down here, and hijacked their beloved bible to misdirect them, and that Jesus is an EXTRATERRESTIAL who is coming back soon in a ship half the size of the USA with a multitudinous fleet of good ET Ships and crews to open a case or fifty of whoop-ass on some deserving gangs of icky dark slimy nasty (BET) Illuminati-Global-Elite-BankerButt.

Just who today is ready for that level of info?

(but in fairness we shall note here that A Jones & co are, however, aware of DUMBs)

I would offer that they (Alex Jones & co ) simply have not fully 'gotten' the extra-planetary/et areas of conspiracy theories that are old hat to the relatively very few of us humans who are now quite comfy zooming around in said et thoughtzones.

IE we here and elsewhere and others of our ilk are part of a tiny tiny tiny tiny slender slim sliver of humanity's collective awareness today, seeing what we "see", ....I thimk. Try telling this in the corner pub.

Also he (jones) and other patriot whistleblowers, while they see thru some/many BET lies, are in some cases still hampered / limited by religions.
(almost forgot that big huge limiting piece)

Could this info disparity issue possibly have anything to do with the (oh so typically human) discordant levels of (non) awareness of extra planetary activity?

I am even almost (but thankfully actually not a bit ) surprised that I myself buy it.

I'm not a document reader. I get that I can get by without reading it, due to your good work and research and production , thank you very much.
Maybe I'll read some when I can stop running/hiding from the space based anti truther nwo laser platforms. (joke) (really?)

And also no doubt my 1980 or so Major Wayne Aho, New Age Foundation prearranged (secret space program?) UFO sighting of that silent big circle of lights tipped me off a bit as well.

As a matter of fact, at pp forum they (mostly the moderator Sane) diligently eschew such talk (ufos etc) because they want to avoid all appearances of being 'nutty' to the mainstream which they realize they must reach in order to awaken enough of the masses to achieve their sense of reaching the peaceful "tipping point" in the fight against the enemy as they understand it.

I do appreciate their strategy of meeting the student at the level the student is on.

Its an uphill battle against the BET infested nwo opposition.

Thats just my paraphrasing of a view I ascribe to, at the moment.

Wait! Hold the presses !
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Jones etc are all Bullshit BET disinfo guys.

Nonetheless
If somebody said "love one another", and "Peace be With You", I'm game.
Could be worse.
Could be nightime. In Siberia. In winter.

Gale
04-09-2009, 09:55 AM
Wait, wait wait...hold on one second before I go any farther in reading your post Unipax. You might want to reconsider that size.


who is coming back soon in a ship half the size of the USA


Combined Bibles
Revelation 21:16
RSV with Apocrypha
The city lies foursquare, its length the same as its breadth; and he
measured the city with his rod, twelve thousand stadia; its length and
breadth and height are equal.
New RSV
The city lies foursquare, its length the same as its width;
and he measured the city with his rod, fifteen hundred miles;
its length and width and height are equal.
King James Version
And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth:
and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The
length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
New American Standard Bible
And the city is laid out as a square, and its length
is as great as the width; and he measured the city with the
rod, fifteen hundred miles; its length and width
and height are equal.

So something like 1500 miles cubed or 3,375,000,000 mi^3 (length x width x height). The interesting thing is HNJ is mentioned as foursquare which brings in volume unlike surface area between borders.
I thinks it apples and oranges.
back to reading


Canada is 3,855,103 sq mi (9,984,670 sq km)
The US is 3,676,487 sq mi (9,826,630 sq km)
Is Canada bigger in land mass than the US? (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Canada_bigger_in_land_mass_than_the_US)

Gale
04-09-2009, 10:24 AM
Wait! Hold the presses !
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Jones etc are all Bullshit BET disinfo guys.


That is probably closer to the truth. When someone starts to go off in a tangent as illustrated in the video Zen posted, I tune out and turn off.


Nonetheless
If somebody said "love one another", and "Peace be With You", I'm game.

That will be the day I love a Bet, I might give them food and water all the while forcing myself under duress.
Peace be with those of Good Will... is the way I think it should be said

unipax
04-09-2009, 12:38 PM
thanks Gale

USA is 3000 miles across

"half the size of the USA" was based on the "1500 mile big" description.

It were just a rough sketch & doesnt account for height & volume

Norval
04-10-2009, 07:41 AM
Alex Jones
Is he part of the PP forum?

What I remember most about the videos that I have seen and heard him in;
It appears, as Fred's signature says,
"An idea is something you have. An ideology is something that has you."-Morris Berman

Something sure has Alex going on about the Bibdergergers and NWO that is for sure. Often he delivers a shout about God in his tirades. (If he only knew the truth about who he is mentioning. He should probably read the book.)
He promotes nationalism which divides peoples, not a good thing.
There is more, but that should be enough to make my point.

Alex Jones does provide information and I think it is just a "SMOKE SCREEN" for what someone doesn't want us to be thinking about.
Gosh, I wonder what that could be, , , , , , , , , :bananen_smilies029:

unipax
04-10-2009, 03:23 PM
Alex Jones
Is he part of the PP forum?

No. He owns prisonplanet, infowars etc.
I gather he doesnt even read prisonplanet forum. "Too busy".




Something sure has Alex going on about the Bibdergergers and NWO that is for sure.

He has them pegged as the bad guys, the "Elites", "Globalists", "Eugenicists", evil illuminati etc. "Rockefeller, Rothschild, Beatrix etc"


Often he delivers a shout about God in his tirades. (If he only knew the truth about who he is mentioning. He should probably read the book.)

He says he is a Christian. Who knows ? Clintons, Bushes, Cheney, Obamas are supposedly Christian too.


He promotes nationalism which divides peoples, not a good thing.
There is more, but that should be enough to make my point.

Alex Jones does provide information and I think it is just a "SMOKE SCREEN" for what someone doesn't want us to be thinking about.
Gosh, I wonder what that could be, , , , , , , , ,

Sure.
Again, regarding him and others that point at nwo / illuminati:
Are they good/honest ones who do not see further, or are they all intentionally serving the BETs as gatekeepers willingly misdirecting others?
I suppose some of them are honest and some are corrupt.
I suppose that if I were a BET, I'd keep a stable of gatekeepers trained for each variety of audience and ready to stand & misdirect whenever some awakening ones begin seeing closer to the truth.
Glenn Beck is a perfect example of such a gatekeeper.

David Icke comes closer to fingering BETs with his shape shifting reptilians.
I havent read or heard enough of him to know whether he names Lucifer or not. Even if he did, he still could be misdirecting. I dont know if he mentions war in sol system.

Bobbi
04-10-2009, 04:33 PM
I was looking about the web to find info regarding Alex Jones and his being set up for the murder in Philadelphia and came across this.

http://houston.indymedia.org/news/2006/07/50374_comment.php

It's an article and subsequent blog entries. Hmmmm.

unipax
04-10-2009, 05:28 PM
I was looking about the web to find info regarding Alex Jones and his being set up for the murder in Philadelphia and came across this.

http://houston.indymedia.org/news/2006/07/50374_comment.php

It's an article and subsequent blog entries. Hmmmm.

Yep, he is accused of being a stealth zionist. I meant to mention that earlier. I once heard him respond to this and address zionism, and deny that he is a zionist. I suppose he would deny whether it is true or not.
Just now I searched youtube 'alex jones on zionism' and saw this 8 minute video. He goes on about Mossad & numerous Israelis in our govt for at least 8 yrs, Chertoff, Rahm Emmanuel, etc, sons of founders of Israel etc. and Israelis boasting that they own Washington. Apparently the video might be a response to claims that he is a zionist. But Jones doesnt actually say the Z word until the 7 minute mark when he mentions the zionist churches in usa, like Hagee etc. He mostly addresses Isrealis instead of Zionists.

He could be a zionist whereas he does not include them in his list of bad guys. I heard him address it more recently than in this vid, but dont have that one yet.

Here's the 8 min vid:


BTW, one thing about the ppforum is that while they are generally supportive of Jones, all of them do not necessarily follow Jones blindly. There are arguments about him there.
I read there not for Jones (he is not there) as much as for the reporting and analysis of info you dont see in media, by the NWO watchers there.


from the site Bobbi linked is a comment by Daryl Bradford Smith. Smith is an anti-zionist that used to work with Eric Hufschmid until they had a falling out. Now they accuse each other of being secret Zionists. Smith actually got arrested and disappeared, and some say it is now a fake Smith in his place.
Here is a piece of Smith's comment :

Jones is a Zionist Denier

There is a definite and obvious pattern with Alex Jones. He is constantly shifting blame away from Israel, Zionists, and Jews, and onto the goyim or onto mysterious entities, such as \"The New World Order\".

How could such an experienced investigator as Alex Jones possibly be oblivious to the role of Zionism in world corruption? How could he possibly believe that all of the world's problems are coming from goyim?

There is only one explanation for Alex Jones and his Zionist Denial: he is a Zionist, and his organization in Austin, Texas is a Zionist terrorist cell.

To be fair I should find Jones rebuttal which I think is more recent than the 8 min vid.

sokpuppet
04-10-2009, 09:27 PM
For what it's worth, here's my 2 cents on Alex.

Alex is about as genuine as any American can be. He's got an amazing amount of "balls" too. His blind spots are his inability to work and think "off-line". By that, I mean, He never goes into territory that doesn't have a 'map' of some sort. I suppose he's affraid of actually being a theorist.

His films remind me of school projects. Having said that, I think he's grown-up a hell of a lot lately. His intellect is getting pretty sharp.

BUT,

Here's where my real critisism kicks in. Even though I don't suspect him in the least of being a concious member of the operation, I see him as a PATSY. As in the 7/7 muslim tube-train 'bombers' (poor sods). Alex is doing them a favour without realising it. The more resistance there is in America the more they can get on with the job of twisting it into justification for their next actions.

It's as simple as that. When they started this phase of their plan (with the twin towers) it was they who had to invent their own excuses. Oklahoma too. Nowadays, the likes of Alex are doing it for them.

On the bright side, Alex has shown a little sign recently that he's beginning to see that fact. It will be interesting to see what Alex does later on. Has he now become fully trapped by his 'success'?

Zenbuoy
04-11-2009, 01:23 PM
[B]You know, gentlemen, I..

...AND Ladies, Sorry B(who let this Zenuoy in...)

Very nice sokpuppet . Welcome aboard.

He does serve the purpose of heading people where they want the rebellious masses to go. Otherwise, he would have been blown up when he pressed the megaphone button.

unipax
04-11-2009, 02:40 PM
He does serve the purpose of heading people where they want the rebellious masses to go. Otherwise, he would have been blown up when he pressed the megaphone button.

good one Zen !
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

unipax
04-11-2009, 05:01 PM
Interesting little insight re AJ & the ppforum, where 'Sane' is the senior poster / moderator.

'Q' posted that AJ said on air that the pirates should be bombed.
Sane disbelieved, and hassled him and another guy who agreed.

A third member said "Confirmed. Alex said they need to bomb their ports"

Sane said: "well that sucks. My apologies to Q and Godsent."

Peaceful non violent resistance (to NWO) is AJ's program, and a 'rule' at ppforum. They believe the NWO wants violence as excuse to crackdown more , as Sokpuppet mentioned.

They at ppforum thought it was wrong of AJ to sound like a 'stupid American' parroting like a NWO bombing agenda.

Q said:

Don't panic, Jones said what I quoted during hour 2 of Friday 04/10 show.

BTW, since you're pursuing this line, Jones also said that the Somali pirates were thoroughly evil and indulge in "raping and killing" - there's no evidence for this. He also said that the pirates should probably have all been killed to prevent future occurences. You will hear all these remarks during Friday's show. Should I make a youtube clip of it?

This is obviously a blind spot of his - everyone has them - and to Jones' credit he usually admits to them afterward.

Gale
04-11-2009, 08:00 PM
...AND Ladies, Sorry B(who let this Zenuoy in...)

Cute Zen

What I have found over time with all these ones like AJ is they are good only to a point. After that they end up going off the deep end.
For example, Dr Salla of Exopolitics. Salla started out doing some very interesting research and reports only to end up going so far as to land in Hawaii hugging dolphins. There had been some incidents of beached dolphins not long after Salla's first hugging conference. If I was a dolphin, I think I would beach myself too.