Solar Warden Space Fleet?

[Gale]

Well they can't admit to that because then they would have to reveal the Solar Warden space fleet that is still fighting it



Zorgon, can you explain more about the Solar Warden space fleet?

[Heretic]

Zorgon, can you explain more about the Solar Warden space fleet?

I am with Gale here, I wanna know more too

Solar Warden is enigmatic

not alot of info out there on it specifically

and the stuff that is out there is suspect (re-GLP forums)

I too would like to hear more about Solar Warden as I am positive it is a reality, just not alot of real evidence on the net (that I have found anyway)

is there a connection with Space Warden and John Lenard Walson's videos?

[unipax]

Quote:
Originally Posted by zorgon View Post
Well they can't admit to that because then they would have to reveal the Solar Warden space fleet that is still fighting it




Note:
Add a coupla grains o salt when Ole Zorgy signs off with a floor slapper or his pokin stick.

I suppose I'm not the only one that has heard of something else like Solar Wardens.
I'm pretty sure it was "The Ashtar Command". They are definitely considered by the faithful to be the good guys. I'm not sure whether you could walk up and kick the tires, or whether their ships existed only 'in the etheric'.
Hey, sounded good at the time.

White hats in spaceships to the rescue !

[unipax]

Heretic said


I too would like to hear more about Solar Warden as I am positive it is a reality, just not alot of real evidence on the net (that I have found anyway)

What have you heard please?

[Heretic]

same as most people I assume

bits and pieces creating a mosaic picture (speculative at best, but all I have)

- the latest tidbit comes from Gary McKinnon who discovered payroll files (if I remember right) to Navy Officers labeled as "Non-terrestrial officers" and listings of off-world cargo operations, in other words...a secret space program as this info is not public.

- another is the recent videos by a guy named John Lenard Walson's who has 10+ videos of supposed ships in earths orbit that he has been able to see and film through some special apparatus on his telescope (again speculative maybe even debunked) which is all over youtube and was quite the sensation when they hit the net...Rense published all of them and he has other zoomed in images of the moon

- John Lear goes into his search for the 4th astronaut killed in the Apollo 1 capsule along with Grissom, White and Chaffee. This can be read at The Living Moon on this thread (http://johnlearsmoon.myfastforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=37&start=0) as well as some other juicy stuff Lear always delivers. This particular 4th astronaut supposedly didnt go on any flights but was a liason to an already existing space program I assume.

William Cooper stated in his 1989 MUFON conference:


\"The first moon landing was May 22, 1962 ... or excuse me, that was the first landing on Mars. I'm sorry, May 22, 1962, was the winged probe that used a hydrozine propeller, flew around approximately three orbits and landed on May 22, 1962, was a joint United States/Russian endeavor. The first time that we landed on the moon was sometime during the ... probably middle 50s, because at the time when President Kennedy stated that he wanted a man to set foot on the moon by the end of the decade we already had a base there.\"

\"What about Mars?\" came another quick question.

\"We have a base on Mars also,\" Cooper calmly replied.

\"When did that happen?\"

\"I don't know the exact date but I know the project's name, it was 'Adam and Eve.'\"

The entire transcript of his speech can be found here (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_cooper13.htm) or you can watch a really low quality video of it


an anonymous post on God Like Productions from denoting facts on Solar Warden can be read here (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message251274/pg1) but here is the highlights from it on Solar Warden:


All space programs are a cover that exists to deceive the people of this world. We have a space fleet, which is codenamed” Solar Warden.” There were, as of 2005, eight ships, an equivalent to aircraft carriers and forty-three “protectors,” which are space planes. One was lost recently to an accident in Mars' orbit while it was attempting to re-supply the multinational colony within Mars. This base was established in 1964 by American and Soviet teamwork. Not everything is, as it seems.

We have visited all the planets in our solar system, at a distance of course, except Mercury. We have landed on Pluto and a few moons. These ships contain personnel from many countries and have sworn an oath to the World Government, also, known as the Bilderbergers. The technology came from back engineering alien-disc wreckage and at times with alien assistance.
I also rely on the writing on the wall, for example:

We have more than one space command: Air Force Space Command (AFSPC) and US Space Command (USSPACECOM), Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command (SPAWAR), US Army Space Command (USARSPACE), and even a global space command called the United Nations Space Command (UNSC)


USSPACECOM provides joint employment of military forces and operational support to other unified, combatant commands. Its mission is to conduct joint space operations in accordance with the Unified Command Plan assigned missions: Space Force Support, Space Force Enhancement, Space Force Application, and Space Force Control.

(U) USSPACECOM is headquartered at Peterson AFB, Colorado Springs, CO. The command operates the Space Defense Operations Center (SPADOC), the Space Surveillance Center (SSC), the Missile Warning Center (MWC), and the Joint Space Intelligence Center (JSIC). It also directs space support operations for assigned spacecraft systems, including the Defense Support Program (DSP), Defense Satellite Communications System (DSCS), Global Positioning System (GPS), Transit Maritime Navigation System (TRANSIT), Fleet Satellite Communications (FLTSATCOM), Air Force Satellite Communications (AFSATCOM) System payloads, and the Defense Meteorological Satellite Program (DMSP).
Perhaps I am jumping to conclusions but the possibility for a secret space program existing among all of these institutions or tangents thereof doesnt require much of a leap of faith for those who research UFOs seriously. Secret space programs go all the way back to the end of WW2 and Antartica (new Berlin). This was the importance of Von Braun IMHO.

- Aerospace Daily reports on December 13, 2004:


Cryptic comments by two Democrats on the Senate floor about a major program in the fiscal year 2005 intelligence authorization conference report point to a secret space effort of some kind that has been under way for years, but which has been unknown to the public, analysts said.

Sens. Jay Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, and Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) both criticized the program without naming it on Dec. 8 during debate on the fiscal year 2005 intelligence authorization bill.

Rockefeller said it was \"totally unjustified and very, very wasteful.\" He said the Senate has voted for the past two years to kill it, \"only to be overruled in the appropriations conference.\" While the new intelligence authorization conference report fully authorizes the effort, Rockefeller said, it is \"unjustified and stunningly expensive.\"

Wyden agreed, and said \"numerous independent reviews have concluded that the program does not fulfill a major intelligence gap or shortfall, and the original justification for developing this technology has eroded in importance due to the changed practices and capabilities of our adversaries. There are a number of other programs in existence and in development whose capabilities can match those envisioned for this program at far less cost and technological risk.\" - Henry Deacon confirms Solar Warden...hehe but I doubt that will hold sway with anyone here.

- On one of Zorgons posts elsewhere (ATS) he stated that on early shuttle craft launches, the Military booked 80% of the cargo space and goes on to detail all current launches (at the time of the wirting) as well as all the past launches.

CURRENT LAUNCHES (http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html)

PAST LAUNCHES (http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/missions/missions.html)


to me this is writing on the wall even though it is not outright admittance

this is all I know to date Unipax and I am hungry for more - hope it helps

[Norval]

Solar Warden posts moved here. :)

[Gale]

After I asked Zorgon that question, I did some searching around and found some stuff at Open Minds.
Solar Warden (http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=othernonserpodisclosures&action=display&thread=1352&page=1)



I think their picture sums up a lot.

[unipax]

Yeah Heretic, I have heard of those.

However, does the context of Zorgon's reference imply that Solar Wardens would be on the other side of the fence, opposing such as a Bilderberger fleet ?

I have always figured the secret space program is run by tptb ie the bad guys, therefore the Solar Wardens would be the good guys if they are fighting the BETs.

Look what that Ole Zorgon has stirred up with his floor slappin smiley post !

[zorgon]

What? Me stir up the pot? LOL

"Solar Warden" is in effect responsible for the creation of Pegasus... long story that...

I will put some stuff together over the next few days... been a tad busy with work...

But one thing the name "Solar Warden" has been much bantied about and thus twisted in meanings as is usual.

From our reference point we are talking a Secret Space Program... I have lots on that... bits and pieces that you have to look at as a whole to get the big picture as they are not just going to blurt it out... and yet at times they actually do just that if you know where to look...

Before I start... back at ATS we worked a lot on the Secret Space program and got the ridicule... I was working on a presentation of some old stuff we had found when PBS NOVA scooped us by days...

Now I don't mind really because they did it better and had more resources... and the timing was perfect...

So take a minute to look at the TRUE secret space program as it was 40 plus years ago... The Russian Almaz space station once rumor actually flew for four years...



http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/astrospies/

Now if we are just now getting the truth on this program, it is not hard to imagine what is going on today


One thing I am sure of... its the NAVY that runs the real space program

[unipax]

Thanks Gale & Heretic & Zorgon!

Where I'm getting to is around identifying today's players without an official game program.

Secret Space Program: check.

US Navy in charge: check.
(Old Navy chain stores flashing 19.5 on their tv commercials, old navy = templar fleet= original pirates of caribbean grabbing the gilded galleons of their papal nemesis )

Solar Wardens: check
Presumably the Solar Warden is our friend if he polices the BETs who infest the Bilderberger illuminati types?

Secret Space Programs = Solar Wardens: No check yet.

If those controlling the Navy, such as Bilderberg types, are controlling the secret space program, is the secret space program our friend?

[Gale]

If this reference to Solar Warden's is of the Navy's then it is of the PTB that are here so ultimately it would be controlled by the Bet's.

As a side note, if there was/is such a program and so called Solar Warden's on the moon & or Mars those individuals would have had to been hand picked and verified to be human otherwise the individual that turned out to be a Bet would not be out there.
I have yet to find a Bet that is online, posting in forums etc that is brave. They are not self-sacrificing and for a Bet to venture off the surface would be certain jeopardy.

[Norval]

What Gale just posted above is the base truth that causes us to believe that there is NO secret space fleet. Bets ARE in control of all governments and any so called "group" of major players. The bets got their butts kicked and tossed out of the heavens down to the earth. NEVER to be allowed to return.

Case closed on the secret space fleets. Just misdirections and deceptions.

It pays to KNOW what the document really says. Saves a whole lot of research time.

[unipax]

What Gale just posted above is the base truth that causes us to believe that there is NO secret space fleet.

Are you saying that the shuttle and its nearing 100 yr old technology is all that the govt has ?

[Heretic]

Case closed on the secret space fleets. Just misdirections and deceptions.

I am not so sure an axiom can close this case

were I a BET I could have human henchmen and minions who would not have the moral or mental strength to resist doing my bidding to go up in space and attempt to control space, guard space or attempt to use those minions as a shield, perhaps even an attempt at a space defense against those coming to save the day for humanity

and what about GETs, is there concrete assurances they are not involved in issues such as this....it is concerning individuals going out into space, perhaps they would have some footprints in that sphere of influence too

but like I said...I am not sure, just speculation

[unipax]

Quote:
What Gale just posted above is the base truth that causes us to believe that there is NO secret space fleet.

Sorry, semantics.

I'm thinking not necessarily a fleet, but just some secret program with either anti grav or back engineered or whatever.

It just seems logical that our govt has some secret stuff beyond old shuttle tech.

[Norval]

The bets got their butts kicked and tossed out of the heavens down to the earth. NEVER to be allowed to return.

Case closed on the secret space fleets. Just misdirections and deceptions.

It pays to KNOW what the document really says. Saves a whole lot of research time.


What part is it you don't understand? That's quite clear in what the document says.

For those that read at Prison Planet Forum.
Welcome to PRISON PLANET Earth.
Which will be prison for Lucifer for the next thousand years.
What it doesn't mention is any other sorry assed jealous, envious, egotistical and arrogant bad ETs being locked up for the next thousand years. It only mentions one.

It's soon to be KILLING TIME !

Those bad ETs that are cowardly hiding out here on earth now are soon to be listed on everyone's hunting licenses. If you are deemed worthy to let live.

Question;
How long does it take for a bad ET to bleed out if you tear out their knee caps?

Answer;
Who the frig cares?

[Gale]

Unipax, the Solar Warden is supposedly about a space fleet, a base on the moon and Mars, also a space station platform.

There is evidence the governments have shot down craft, retrieved craft and been reverse engineering, also working with the Bet's, side by side. There is enough whistle blowers, evidence, circumstantial evidence to choke a horse.
There has been video tapes of craft shooting at and chasing other craft.

But for an Earth based program, extensive enough to support a fleet of crafts, man power and resources, it is highly unlikely but an excellent diversion for truth seekers. The PTB are very adept at diversionary tactics.

We do know that Lucifer with his minions were thrown down here. It is only logical that one does not corral their enemies with all their equipment and weaponry only survival essentials.

I will have to comment more later, right now I have Mom and kid stuff to deal with.

[unipax]

Thanks Norval & Gale !


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[unipax]

Unipax, the Solar Warden is supposedly about a space fleet, a base on the moon and Mars, also a space station platform.

The supposed Warden fleet was said to be whom, human or not? Good ? Bad?


There is evidence the governments have shot down craft, retrieved craft and been reverse engineering, also working with the Bet's, side by side. There is enough whistle blowers, evidence, circumstantial evidence to choke a horse.
There has been video tapes of craft shooting at and chasing other craft.

Check.
But whom is supposedly chasing/shooting and whom is being chased/ shot at?

Thanx Gale

[Norval]

Guess you should read the book?

But that's just a suggestion.

, , , we have told who is who and what they are doing time and time again, ,

, , , if yah can't read the book, , maybe you should read more carefully what we have already posted many times?

, ,, but that is just a suggestion too.

I said I was taking off the kiddy's gloves.

[Norval]

There is a very good reason we have never returned to the moon and it is said we were told never to return.
Why is it we have far better images of Mars and moons of Mars than our own moon?
Why is it the images of amateur astronomers is better than those taken from orbit?
Why are we allowed to send robotic recon devices?
Why isn't there manned missions to at least Mars and the moons of Mars?

Supposedly this space fleet or occupation of Mars and our moon was happening at the same time the war on Mars was just winding down. Not my idea of a time to be attempting any landings on Mars. Duh?