Project Avalon / Camelot (PAC) [Archive]

k'sha

11-26-2008, 05:07 PM

Hi Norval,
I'm joining this forum in solidarity with your ideals with regard to freedom of speech.I was over at Reality Sandwich but left on my own accord after watching the machinations of the newage fascists over there as they simultaneously practiced censorship based on personal bias while proclaiming evolved spiritual and political ideals.
I found Project Avalon and didn't join but watched what happened over there.The behaviour of the moderators filled me with disgust as they arbitrarily abused the power they were given.It doesnt seem to take much for one's inner fascist to manifest,it seems,just acquire a moderator's position.
I thank the stars these people possess no real temporal power....they are as abusive of another's personal sovereignty as the powers that be,albeit on a smaller scale.Yet they delude themselves that they are the good guys with specious rationalisations.Pathetic.
Then I went to AstroVera....yes,this is getting to be a saga...laugh...and I could not believe that the same power stuggles were already in play....unbelievable!....the honourable thing would've been for Michael to start his own forum if he disagreed so strongly.
But of course,no.....it was all set up....the work was done and to my mind,he stole it,no matter what he and his wife say.More specious rationalisations to excuse themselves.I would've respected them more if they said,'We stole this forum from the other founding members 'cause we could.'
But they can't say that....they are spiritual,evolved....words which I'm beginning to distrust on sight.....no,they need to play the blame game to whitewash their behaviour.
Whether they are new age fascists or new world order fascists,where they are,I'm not.
Freedom of speech,a basic human right.
Not the way the mods think it should look.

Norval

11-27-2008, 10:16 PM

Free speech was at Avalon, as long as you put up with their "pet posters" and kissed this ones ass.

Carol

People with avatars like this little sexy thing are usually far from what it depicts. As she was. :moon:

Gary

11-28-2008, 01:51 AM

Heretic

11-29-2008, 05:49 AM

Well I will be honest, I am still at Avalon

It has been clear to me from the start that Avalon was MEANT to be their income, they didn't just decide to make it so because of its success. I am surprised others don't comment on this, as it is even more juicy "ammunition" than most I have read. They had the subscription post up in the first couple of days. Avalon opens and 3 months later Kerry can't pay the rent, and both of their inheritance money is near gone. The math is easy.

The whole money thing, I really dont care because that isn't the focus for me. I like Camelot for the information it has put out over the years. I dont support all their ideas, but I wont shoot them down either, and I most certainly wont complain if you shoot them down. To each his own.

I know there is this big who-haw over principle and info is free etc but all the bells, whistles, and personalities mean nothing to me. I don't get star struck. They walked into the whole forum thing very naively and made big mistakes.

I guess I have a strong proficiency in stepping in other peoples shoes and can usually see all sides of conflict (accept my own damn it!). So I understand the anger and betrayal on both sides of the issue, but I don't spend time dwelling on these things. I don't have that time, I am too busy learning, or trying to. I am the guy looking behind the curtain ignoring the show.

The AV drama was a power coup and I think Michael, whether he knows it or not, used you guys as a "Avalon dissenter magnet" to create his own crowd to define his own glory. And I will be blunt, you should have made your own site in the first place.

Now that everything seems to be in place for the moment, I came to talk because up until now there has been no proper atmosphere for discussion. I am happy to be here and look froward to learning.

So although I am no dissenter, I am also not "indoctrinated" nor a star eyed follower of anyone but the path I walk.

Heretic

11-29-2008, 01:32 PM

OMG

everyone is gonna hate me now

KILL THE AVALON GUY!!! :death:

:gnorsi:

Gale

11-29-2008, 07:01 PM

That’s a very mature attitude Heretic.

Heretic

12-01-2008, 01:19 PM

:RockOn: Why thank you Gale.

There was so much going on behind closed doors that I am not even sure what I was seeing take place. I knew PMs and even emails were being read and some of the people I was in touch with confirmed it so I never had a way of asking the questions I wanted without asking them to compromise themselves.

So I just watched and read between the lines. Waiting for it to pop. It did not pop in the way I expected and it was much more mild. I guess it eventually just turned into a mass disagreement on the direction of PAC and who they trust.

I am really surprised the money issue turned into the shit storm it did. It was old news and everyone could have easily used the Camelot side and leave the payments to the radiant zone seekers.

I have watched the B&K story unfold over the years with interest, from the first Bill Hamilton interview. They have certainly made their footprints in the conspiracy world, no small feat for "allegedly" normal, initially unconnected folks. And their creating a forum based on their work for income and selling some DVDs (similar to the Wilcock money model) looked promising I suppose.

Perfect little setup I thought. With Zorgon's calculations at 25% only granting them 40k year each, is barely enough to live on if your traveling the world and eating out all the time doing interviews. I doubt they would have ever keep enough radiant zone seekers to make the six figure incomes though. But who knows.

Unfortunately their naiveté in the world of forums and that sub-culture was their undoing and they even took volunteers from everyday folks for moderators LOL. If they dont get their game down quick the ATS syndrome will eat PAC for lunch and I recognize it may already be too late, but I am going to stick around and watch this very interesting storyline in conspiracy history.

I am not really that emotionally invested in them, they have put out "some" quality work. I just find them, "interesting".

Gale

12-01-2008, 05:51 PM

I am still banned over there so oh well. :Lol:

Omega

12-03-2008, 10:58 PM

Bill, BILL................:001_9898::asshole::death:

Swami Salami

12-03-2008, 11:00 PM

OOoohh man I missed that.....:bananen_smilies029::hammer::wub:

Norval

12-04-2008, 09:41 AM

Heretic;
The AV drama was a power coup and I think Michael, whether he knows it or not, used you guys as a "Avalon dissenter magnet" to create his own crowd to define his own glory. And I will be blunt, you should have made your own site in the first place.

Yes Michael did just that, knowingly and intentionally.

Gale and I started talking about re-opening our old sites with a new forum that matched PAC's V-Bulliten board format a few days before we approached Michael (Arcora). We all agreed that Michael's AV was the better name for the site as it was more "friendly" than our old ones of Kingdom of YHWH and Crater Chains. At the time, the others (we), didn't know that he was on a server (one he owns) that was using a "proxy" mask in front of it for privacy and secrecy. When Bobbi purchased the lease for the V-Bulliten forum software, I assumed that Michael would give her the Top Administrator slot as the lease was in her name. Wrong. So by day two, I knew that Michael was up to something and so I made that post about BET's. (Maybe it should have been about "possession" by the bad ETs.) The rest is history, Michael, without any notice, cowardly betrayed the rest of the founders and pirated the forum and software. As of then he was running on borrowed time, and that time is fast running out.

"Earth's Banner" has a whole lot more meaning though.

There is a whole lot more about Michael that we can post, but why? He has proven that he is a liar, betrayer, deceiver, slanderer, and one that is without honor or integrity.

When it comes to PAC, I posted the "Sold Us Out", and the proof is in that it never takes over a week to sort out a forum, it only takes a few hours, or a couple days at most, to do that. There was no power struggle. The PTB stepped in because of what was being posted by a couple of posters. (Guess who) Believe it or not, the whole set up at PAC was a trap in the form of tri-level chess. Bill and Kerry got "used" and "owned" by the PTB.

Personally I hold no ill will towards Bill and Kerry, nor Colin, and I have given my word, over there at PAC, never to post again.

Heretic

12-05-2008, 01:19 AM

Bill and Kerry got "used" and "owned" by the PTB.

TBTB's attempt to do this was/is inevitable, and if it has then I wonder if it was before or after the forums opened. I have been watching for this to happen as that is a "flare shot in the air" announcing someone getting too close. So far (from what I know) HD could be that flare. PAC's latest interviews have taken a new direction too.

Fascinating.

Norval

12-05-2008, 08:42 AM

:lol: Henery Deacon didn't even light a candle over there at PAC, let alone a flare shot in the sky.

unipax

12-05-2008, 06:13 PM

Took me a while, but I have caught up with the politics in the forums.
I started with the interviews at PC. I did not follow PA closely enough to notice the clashes and bannings. I was interested in what little I read of Norval & Gale's work. Later, I was surprised when I saw Norval was banned at PA. Then I fortunately saw a link to AV. I caught only nibbles of Norval & Gale's work at PA until it was posted on AV as links to those several great threads at PA. Are those threads saved somewhere for safekeeping ? I read them just 3 days ago. Thank you N&G. After catching up on what happened, I came here because what went down at PA and AV is not my cup of tea, and I am interested in N&G's work. I figured the strife at PA was the work of cointelpro types or whoever they are. BETs? Anyway I just want to know what is really going on, and what to anticipate.
I was not a member at PA. I joined AV, maybe I'll post there, I dont know. Something about the AV membership requirement of believing in Jesus and his return etc kinda threw me off. Whether or not I agree is not the issue, but just having to say "I do" made me uncomfortable.

Also I relate to waterfront life ie that is another reason I noticed Norval & Bobbi .... It just so happens that I am the founder of The Inter Galactic Wharf Rat Society. You say you've never heard of it ? Its a joke. In the 70s in Boston, some of us boaters referred to each other as wharf rats, so I made some IGWRS letterheads for our use. I like the concept. If I recall correctly ... in the sci-fi space movie Barbarella (Jane Fonda?) I think there was a wharf rat type character cruising around in a craft powered by the solar winds.

So here I am at earth's banner. I look forward to learning more. Thanks again. Sorry for rambling a bit. Just felt like introducing myself a little since I am new.

Norval

12-08-2008, 10:14 AM

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8316

And the lies, deceptions and slander just keep coming from those at PAC,
Antaletriangle sets up the deception with this post,
Antaletriangle, 11-29-2008, 02:59 AM #1
Efields gives the deception it's direction, knowing full well that I didn't post those videos, nor do I
endorse them.
efields, 11-29-2008, 03:39 AM #2
"Ugh hu Is this a Video sanctioned by Norval? For crying Out Loud LOL "
Antaletriangle, 11-29-2008, 03:59 AM #3
"lol.! "
These are deceptive liars and slanderers!

Then there is Anchors lies and deceptions too!
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=85565&postcount=23
Anchor, 11-23-2008, 12:02 PM #23
"Reunite AstroVera has suffered its own changes it seems, and has passed through a detoxification of its own. Norval & Co are not admins there anymore and are even coming up with some piracy related BS to lay on the owner and website founder over there. Same tactics different day. Tic Toc. They will probably move on to another forum now."

Anchor, You are a liar and slanderer, or have you just gotten the facts all screwed up?
Personally I think you are just a lying deceptive piece of shit. IMHO !

Gary

12-08-2008, 12:14 PM

Hahaha, it's so funny!
What will they know tomorrow?:bananen_smilies095:

corleone

12-12-2008, 05:37 PM

avalon is going payed tomorrow.....!

Gale

12-12-2008, 08:34 PM

Well, won't all the avalon posters just post on camalot?

corleone

12-12-2008, 09:31 PM

mwahahaha, i got an email from PA....I thought my IP got banned....WTF

Terran

12-15-2008, 11:22 AM

2008 12 15, 10:15am Looks like membership dropped precipitously after 'subscription only' posting instituted:

corleone

12-16-2008, 04:31 AM

2008 12 15, 10:15am Looks like membership dropped precipitously after 'subscription only' posting instituted:

Carol is still there:shitgrey::asshole:

Gale

12-16-2008, 07:43 AM

Why would you expect her not to be there? What was red lettering, a super mod?

corleone

12-16-2008, 10:01 AM

Why would you expect her not to be there? What was red lettering, a super mod?
I think so yes, supermod.....And yes, I expected her there....

Norval

12-20-2008, 02:23 PM

No, Carol is not a Super Moderator, she is only a "Project Avalon Resource Co-ordinator". :moon:

Gary

01-26-2009, 12:33 PM

JOBS FOR THE BOY'S!

State of the Planet
The Project Camelot Blog
_____________________

25 January 2009

• Project Camelot has just returned from Ecuador. We had been sponsored, by an extremely generous Project Avalon Forum member, to attend and speak at a two-day conference hosted by Dr Brian O'Leary, ex-NASA astronaut and prominent Free Energy activist.

70 people made the long journey at short notice - some from Canada, Europe and Australia - making this an exceptional international gathering of what George Green calls the Ground Crew. All who attended agreed that the networking was as valuable as the speakers: Brian O'Leary, George Green (now resident in Cuenca, Ecuador's third city), Miriam Delicado, and ourselves.

CAROL THROWING HER MONEY AROUND NOW AS WELL!

zorgon

02-04-2009, 12:00 AM

Hey anyone know where I can snag a rich lady to sponsor my site?

Gale

02-04-2009, 04:35 AM

Maybe a 'wish list', 'want ad' and 'swap-n-shop' section.

First on my list, Intergalactic Library Card, then a housekeeper, male preferably...LOL

Since Project Avalon / Camelot (PAC) has sold out I don't expect a lot more good research to come from them, but I could be wrong. Depending if the PTB want some tidbit dangled out there.

Zenbuoy

02-04-2009, 08:46 AM

Hey anyone know where I can snag a rich lady to sponsor my site?

Click the picture, Irene knows you want to...
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Gary

02-04-2009, 12:06 PM

And........Amsterdam?????

Norval

02-15-2009, 12:33 PM

Too funny, , , hi yah PACers :lol:

Bobbi

02-15-2009, 12:35 PM

Due to our recent influx of visitors to this particular thread, I did a simple little search on Project Camelot. This is what I found at Wikipedia. Now I understand this project was "supposedly" shut down, but don't you find the similarities of it's objective just a little odd when you consider what Bill and Kerry's forums are focused towards???? Sociology research on governmental takeover by it's own citizens? Let's find out how the "rebels" plan to do it so we can be one step ahead of them??? Just wondering.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Camelot

Gale

02-18-2009, 12:15 AM

Does anyone really believe there are such things as coincidences anymore?

Gale

09-03-2009, 05:28 AM

Bill Ryan of Project Camelot has in his own words admitted to being a walk-in (skinwalker) or BET controlled. He also is implicating Kerry as the same.

30 August 2009, In our inbox just now, I read this simple message (http://projectcamelot.net/)

Norval

09-03-2009, 09:00 AM

Truly, if we didn't know what the Document (Bible) says, we would be screwed as near as I can tell. Now that we have the technology to comprehend what is possible with such advanced technology it is quite apparent we are not alone. We never have been alone.

Gale

12-25-2009, 06:00 AM

Project Avalon forum is now non-subscription, free for all.

Norval

12-25-2009, 09:13 AM

PAC,
Our War in the Sol System thread, 20,578 views.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3194

The Bible, It's About Disclosure thread, 6,784 views.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2094

The Bible, Our Conclusion thread, 3,491 views.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5854

The Bibles Signs in our Skys thread, 10,402 views.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5187

Calm Down and Read It thread, 7,508 views.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4423

The Whistle Blower to Bill and Kerry thread, 7,979 views.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4115

Total views of our information contributed so far to truth is, 56,742 views of TRUTH. :lol:

Gale

12-26-2009, 07:55 AM

They make no bones about who is banned

No new resent posts but a heck of a lot of views, amazing.

Recent War in our Solar System went on for 11 pages, started 09-24-2008, 12:40 AM, :wow: last posted in 02-16-2009, 07:29 PM.

The Bible, It's About Disclosure thread went on for 5 pages, started 09-15-2008, 10:47 PM, :wow: last posted in 11-07-2008, 01:59 AM.

A "Whistle Blower" open letter to Bill and Kerry, and the forum went on for 5 pages, started on 10-04-2008, 05:15 AM, last posted in 10-06-2008, 02:20 PM when Norval asked it to be locked.

Calm Down, And Read It went on for 4 pages, started on 10-06-2008, 08:50 PM, last posted in 10-22-2008, 04:34 AM.

The Bibles Signs in our Skys went on for 5 pages, started 10-13-2008, 05:01 PM, :wow: last posted in 11-03-2008, 12:50 AM

The Bible, Our Conclusion thread went on for 3 pages, started on 10-22-2008, 03:25 AM, last posted in 11-04-2008, 06:32 PM.

Gale

02-09-2010, 07:29 PM

Bill and Kerry were interviewed August 2009

Gale

02-10-2010, 07:13 PM

I have spent this afternoon listening to Bill and Kerry's interview of Dr Pete Peterson. He seems to have had some very interesting careers.
Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Gale

04-20-2010, 07:47 AM

Bill and Kerry have split up because of differences of opinion. Bill has taken Project Avalon and Kerry took Project Camelot.... fascinating
Access to both web sites is from what they call Project Camelot Portal (http://projectcamelotportal.com/index.html).

Kerry had been swimming with dolphins and claims to have been visited by an aquatic ET :rolleyes:
Bill is looking into Planet X .... to quote "Planet X (not a planet, but a brown dwarf star, currently somewhere round the orbit of Jupiter) and the clear trend of increased volcanic and earthquake activity that's becoming increasingly hard for anyone to ignore".
:rolleyes: