Archaeology We Are Not Suppose To Know About

[Gale]

Some very interesting Archaeology discoveries we are not suppose to find anything about ... fascinating!!

[Norval]

It's worth a listen, lots of mentions of odd things all over the world.

[Gale]

Norval, his book "Dead Men's Secrets" is well worth looking into, as much or more so as Fort's book.

[Norval]

Thanky kindly, looks like a trip to the library is on the list now. :)

[Gale]

I think somewhere on his website he states his book has been banned .... I would have to look into that again.

[Norval]

Another area to look into is Forbidden Archeology at youtube.
I remember we saw some good videos on that, , ,

[Gale]

I think you mean this one:

[Gale]

Some interesting snips from Gray's book:


pg ix-x
in October 1957, that man’s most daring triumph—
Sputnik I—had been rocketed suddenly into orbit 584 miles above the earth.
With excitement, mingled almost with disbelief, millions worldwide had
scanned the night sky to glimpse that shining artificial moon skimming on
its path east to west against the canopy of stars. Within four months
America had followed suit.
So, after aeons of tortoise-paced development, humanity had suddenly
leapt off the planet; it was startling—and we were alive to see it!
Then came a bizarre discovery. It was hushed up quickly, I recalled.
...
As tracking stations swung into action to monitor these new moons, the
night sky had tossed up an awesome mystery. Another satellite was discovered already in orbit. Certainly it was neither American nor
Russian—and the uncanny truth was nobody else had the technology.
French astronomer Jacques Valle of the Paris Observatory, saw it three
times in 1961 and got eleven data points in forty-five seconds. It seemed to
he orbiting in reverse at an altitude of over 22,000 miles above the earth.
Experts were jolted. Who put this satellite into orbit? How long had it
been there?


pg 3-4-5
this entire
planet, equable and warm from pole to pole, will suddenly change under a
flood of water ...
“Oh, some stupid prophecy about sheets of water crashing from the sky
and erupting out of the ground,” Sam snorted. “Religious nonsense.
“Perhaps so,” responded Mal. “But you know pal, there is enough water
up there and down there.” He jesticulated with his flask.
“What do you mean?” Was Sam hearing right? Was Mal a fruitcake
too?
“Just this, Sam. You know why we have such an excellent climate?
Why we have vegetation in such lavish exuberance, so wonderfully teeming
with animal life?”
“Go on.”
“It’s that vapour canopy high above the planet. It filters out harmful
cosmic rays and keeps our climate just right. But there’s oceans of water up
there- and lots more in the underground basins. If something were to disturb
them…”
Sam cut in. “Rubbish. I’ll believe it when the first drops fall. Look,
most of earth’s surface is not sea, but land, watered since time began-and
quite adequately, I might say-by nothing but the gentle morning mist. It’s
reliable, I tell you. What can go wrong?”
...As for the worldwide greenhouse environment, geology would one day
attest to it-as well as to its sudden demise.


pg 6
More than any document, the Bible was assailed as a collection of
fanciful myths. Yet, to the embarrassment of the critics, archaeological
discoveries proved time and again that the fabled cities, mythical persons
and impossible events were true and reliable reporting in every detail.
Indeed, the Bible can now be regarded as the most accurate and trustworthy
source of history we possess.

[Norval]

Holy Shit, , , glad we ordered the book now, ,

[Gale]

pg 58
The mutual collapse of the high civilization centers through nuclear
warfare in the third millennium B.C. had come swiftly and without warning
(see prehistoric era map in Chapter 4), leaving little time to salvage anything
but essentials.
Small groups of survivors set out to begin life once more in the jungles
and mountains that were untouched by radiation and ruin. Without industry,
they were compelled to concentrate on producing their own essentials. The
emphasis reverted to agricultural self-sufficiency.
Although their members had skills, there were too few of them to create
a new civilization within the void they were forced to face. Every culture
requires a certain density of population. This was no longer available, so
they were forced into a more basic existence.
It happened all over the world at once. (And will historians please
explain it?) All the world’s major agricultural centers suddenly appeared in
different places about the same time.
These new agricultural centers appeared in northeastern China,
southeastern Asia, northeastern Mexico, Peru and Venezuela.
What is more, they all sprang up in close proximity to areas which had
been destroyed by some fiery holocaust (that is, the Gobi and Indian
civilization centers, the Death Valley ruins, the melted facade of
Sacsahuaman and the vitrified ruins in the Brazilian jungle).
Were some of these new “primitive” communities survivors of manmade
catastrophe?




pg 60
Wajsmann continued. “Archaeologists who have gone out to uncover
facts know nothing of uncivilized cavemen.
“The point is, many of today’s so-called primitives are not relics of a
Stone Age. Rather, they are the wreckage of more highly developed
societies, forced by various circumstances such as natural disasters to lead a
much simpler, less developed way of life.”
And who reached that conclusion?”
None other than a recent conference of anthropologists.”


pg 67 - 69
MISREADING THE TIME can be downright embarrassing...
1. An original super civilization was annihilated and our planet swept
totally clean by a Deluge, about 3400 B.C.
2. The earliest postdeluvian nations sprang into existence ready made,
about 3,000 B.C.
3. Primitive cultures were offshoots from the civilized world of 3400 B.C.
and later; all societies had degenerated more or less...
The question is, HOW FAR BACK WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY
CAN WE GO? As far as dates are concerned, where does fact end and
speculation begin?
The answer is, ABOUT 3,000 B.C. And the reasons for my stating this
are compelling...
Consider the much acclaimed carbon - 14 dating method. This is based
on the radioactive decay rate in organic matter. It is a fact that every living
thing absorbs cosmic radioactive carbon-14 from the atmosphere. At death,
this intake ceases and the radiocarbon in the organism begins to disintegrate.
The amount of remaining C-14 is used to calculate how long ago the
organism died.
The accuracy of this dating method has come under some criticism
lately. For example, a living mollusk from salt water can show age dates of
3,000 years (as though it had been dead for 3,000 years).
Under normal conditions, radiocarbon dating is reliable to about 4,000
years ago. Then the disparity runs wild. You see, this dating method
depends on the assumption that atmospheric radiation has remained
constant.
The trouble is that any traumatic environmental change occurring in the
past would have accelerated the decay rate, adding to “apparent age,” if
calculated on the assumption of uniformity.
Thus an upheaval like the Deluge would play immeasurable havoc upon
readings prior to about 3,000 B.C. It’s as simple as that.
Let’s not underestimate the impact of the Deluge. The thing to
remember is that this event was a universal catastrophe. It encompassed
epic changes: mountains rising and falling, tidal waves rushing faster than
the speed of sound, as well as thousands of Krakatoas belching out dust to
darken the atmosphere for centuries. Anything that could happen did
happen. Seismic and atmospheric distortions persisted for hundreds of
years.
Get this. The earliest civilized cultures that can be dated go back no
further than the post-Deluge period.

[Gale]

pg 289
INDIA
69 (W): G.R. Josyer, director of the International Academy of Sanskrit
Research in Mysore, has translated into English the 3,000-year-old
Vymanika Shastra, meaning “the Science of Aeronautics”.15 It has eight
chapters (6,000 lines), with diagrams, on the construction of three types of
aircraft.
Information covers:
• The design of a helicopter-type cargo plane and drawings for
double- and triple-decked passenger planes for as many as 500
people.
• Plans for an aircraft that flew in the air, travelled under water, or
floated pontoonlike on the water.
• The qualifications and training of pilots.
• The planes were equipped with cameras, radio and a kind of
radar, as well as apparatuses that could not catch fire or break.
• Instructions on how to make the aircraft invisible to enemies,
how to paralyze other aircraft, how to create the illusion of a
star-spangled sky, how to zig-zag in the sky like a serpent, how
to see inside an enemy’s airplane, how to spy on “all activities
going on down below on the ground”.
• Also the correct proportions of certain chemicals which will
envelop the aircraft and give it the appearance of a cloud.
This document contains formulas which would make our aircraft
manufacturers gape in astonishment, and if mastered would herald a new
era in aviation.


pg 291-292
CANADA
85 (O): Canadian Indians tell of the ancient times when “demons came
and made slaves of our people and sent the young to die among the rocks
and below the ground (mining?). But then arrived the thunderbird, and our
people were freed. We learned about the marvellous cities of the
thunderbird, which were beyond the big lakes and rivers to the south.
“Many of our people left us and saw these shining cities and witnessed
the grand homes and the mystery of men who flew upon the skies. But then
the demons returned, and there was terrible destruction. Those of our people who had gone southward returned to declare that all life in the cities was
gone—nothing but silence remained.”17
The name “thunderbird” (or “firebird”) is used by the Indians of the
U.S.A., Canada and Alaska. This is the animal we see at the top of the
totem pole.
U.S.A.
86 (O): The Hopi Indians of the southwest United States have a similar
tradition of people who made a “patuwvota” which soared through the sky.
On this, many of them flew to attack a great city.
Soon others from many nations were making “patuwvotas” and flew to
attack one another.


pg 304-305
TIBET
22 (W): Sanskrit documents discovered by the Chinese at Lhasa are
claimed to contain directions for building interplanetary spaceships. Flight
to the moon is mentioned (though it is not stated whether this was
undertaken or just planned). The Chinese have stated that certain of the data were being studied for inclusion in their space program.

23 (S): Relics on the moon? Reports have been made concerning
strange messages on the surface of the moon.
• An object shaped like a sword near the crater Birt
• Strange cross formations in the crater Eratosthenes and at Fra Mauro
• Angular lines in the crater Gassendi and seven spots in the shape of
the Greek capital Gamma on the floor of the crater Littrow
• Two giant sets of letters under Mare Serenitalis, to the left of Mare
Tranquilitatis, which read: “PYAX” and “JAW”—black letters,
easily discernible
• Strange tracks running right up the wall of a crater.
If such geometric constructions were found on earth, speculation would
rage as to the men who left them.

Not every discovery has been announced by NASA—and exploration
has scarcely begun. Already NASA has run out of budget for further moon
visits. It is by no means impossible that future astronauts will discover
objects or installations showing that other human beings came to the moon
in the distant past.
24 (S): It was July 20, 1969, the occasion of the first moon landing.
During the last reconnaissance flight around the moon, preceding the
landing, one of the astronauts made an unexpected announcement: he had
just seen the contours of what seemed to be some sort of seven-story
structure.
What was it that he saw? Might it have been the “Palace of Cold”?
Why did they subsequently delete this from rebroadcasts? (But it was too
late. We had already heard it.)
If there is a single, ancient, long-abandoned edifice on the moon, if there
is a single object indicating earlier intelligence, if there is still one
recognizable rock drawing to be found, then just think what such a find
would do to our conventional history.
But wait! News is now filtering through—not from the moon, hut from
40 million miles away on the small planet Mars.
25 (S): A Soviet scientist who defected to the West claims that
photographs taken by an orbiting satellite clearly show the ruined temples of
a civilization—on the planet Mars!
The 58-year-old scientist was a high-echelon member of an elite team
that has worked together since 1961 when Vostok I carried Yuri A. Gagarin
as the first man in space.
But Russia’s growing emphasis on the development of a nuclearized
“Star Wars” satellite system in space prompted him to flee Russia. He now
lives under an assumed identity in Switzerland.
He reports that several years ago, a Soviet satellite was launched for
Mars. It reached that destination in 1982 and has been orbiting the Red
Planet ever since.
Its sole purpose was to beam photographs and other data back to a
manned satellite orbiting Earth. The task was accomplished with incredible
success.
The photographs are computer-enhanced and in full color. The detail
they show is far beyond anything produced in America. And there is no
mistaking what they reveal.
The city scanned by the satellite’s camera is three times the size of
Moscow and it is ringed by wide boulevards, one inside the other and linked
together by smaller avenues, like the spokes of a cartwheel.
The temples must have been huge. Most are in ruins, as though
crumbled by a tremendous Marsquake. But some still support slate-grey
domes that measure two to four miles in diameter.
The Soviet Union will never admit to this incredible discovery because
it would reveal too much of their technological progress.


pg 296-297
BRAZIL
102 (0): Deep in the jungles of northwestern Brazil the Ugha Mongulala
tribe have severed contact with the outside world. In 1972, their chief
Tatunca supplied to Karl Brugger details concerning underground chambers
littered with metal objects and equipment. One relic is asserted to be a
rocketlike flying machine with a brilliant golden sheen. It can hold only two
men and is described as having neither sails nor rudder. Nearby sits a
strange bowl-shaped vehicle with seven long legs which “resemble curved
bamboo sticks and are moveable.”3
It must be said that certain additional features in the chief’s account are
consistent with discoveries on other continents. He referred to:
1. Ever-burning lights (see Chapter 25, items 21 to 49).
2. Bodies immersed in a preserving fluid (compare Chapter 25, item
31).
3. Corpses with six fingers and toes. Similarly endowed humans
appear in biblical records4 and in recent tomb discoveries.

There is even mention of machines... and


pg 296
EGYPT
100 (S): During the early period of Egypt’s overtures with Israel,
permission was accorded to Israeli archaeologists (if we are to accept one
magazine report) to dig near the Snofru Pyramid at Dahshur.
Late in February 1979, at a depth of 50 feet, they broke into a cave,
which to their astonishment contained a 40-foot disk-shaped craft.
Photographs of the craft, which was equipped with ultrasophisticated
devices, were delivered to Israel’s Defense Ministry.
On March 2, in a lightning raid, Golani Brigade commandos took charge
of the object. It was brought to Tel Aviv.
Initial tests with weaponry as well as with rejuvenating chemicals found
on board allegedly left officials half-stunned.
Egyptian archaeologists shortly after unearthed a second craft under the
Bent Pyramid and were under pressure to release it to the United States.

[Norval]

Why, oh why, did I ever go to school?!?!?!

[Gale]

European Exopolitics Summit 2009 in Barcelona - Klaus Donna, discusses archaeological finds.

European Exopolitics Summit 2009 in Barcelona (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1867460)