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sfth13
06-18-2009, 07:23 AM
NASA will tomorrow launch a spectacular mission to bomb the Moon. Their LCROSS mission will blast off from Cape Canaveral, Florida, carrying a missile that will blast a hole in the lunar surface at twice the speed of a bullet. The missile, a Centaur rocket, will be steered by a shepherding spacecraft that will guide it towards its target - a crater close to the Moon's south pole. Scientists expect the blast to be so powerful that a huge plume of debris will be ejected.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=nasas-mission-to-bomb-the-moon-2009-06

Norval
06-18-2009, 07:46 AM
Thanks Sfth13, I'll be checking into this as I wonder just what type of exsplosive they are using. :)

Gale
06-19-2009, 07:06 AM
It seems the LCROSS mission is the next stage of the Deep Impact Mission and a followup from the Clemintine (DoD) Mission mixed with aspects from the Lunar Prospector Mission. It sounds like NASA wants to ring the Moon's bell to see whose home.

Lunar CRater Observation and Sensing Satellite (http://lcross.arc.nasa.gov/)
Lunar CRater Observation and Sensing Satellite (LCROSS), Frequently asked Questions (http://lcross.arc.nasa.gov/faq.htm)
NASA, Lunar CRater Observation and Sensing Satellite (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LCROSS/main/index.html)



More to come but right now my internet is acting like dial up and my computer is acting like a 386....grrrrrr

Norval
06-19-2009, 07:20 AM
, , , , so, , , , no explosive, just a 5,000 pound rocket casing traveling at just over 5,000 miles per hour, , , mmmmmmmmm k.

Gale
06-19-2009, 11:54 AM
Will LCROSS contaminate the Moon with metals and fuel from the rocket and shepherding spacecraft?

The Centaur upper stage and LCROSS spacecraft will not vaporize or disintegrate during impact, but will mostly crumple and break apart. Most of the material will be warmed to several hundred degrees just through the compaction process during impact. Any unspent rocket fuel (primarily hydrazine) will most likely “flash”, or burn, at impact. With regards to the Centaur we are being very careful to purge as much of the rocket fuel (hydrazine, liquid oxygen and hydrogen) as possible so as not to contaminate our measurements.

Purge? contaminate their measurements?

Gale
06-24-2009, 02:09 AM
Here is a different spin on the bombing the moon.


NASA’s lunar bombing violates space law and must be stopped

NASA’s use of a 2-ton empty Centaur rocket as a kinetic weapon violates space law in multiple ways and must be stopped, in flight or in lunar orbit, which the LCROSS lunar orbiter reaches on Tuesday June 23, 2009.

The bombing of the moon with a kinetic weapon to create a 5 mile crater is a per se violation of the U.N. Outer Space Treaty, which the U.S. has ratified, irrespective of its being designed as part of an experiment related to lunar colonization.

The U.N. Outer Space Treaty (Article III) provides that “States Parties to the Treaty shall carry on activities in the exploration and use of outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies, in accordance with international law, including the Charter of the United Nations.”
NASA moon bombing violates space law & may cause conflict with lunar ET/UFO civilizations (http://www.examiner.com/x-2912-Seattle-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m6d19-NASA-moon-bombing-violates-space-law--may-cause-conflict-with-lunar-extraterrestrial-civilizations)

This supposedly violates a UN Treaty"
The NASA LCROSS website claims the "impact crater that will be made by the LCROSS Centaur impact will be around 20 meters in diameter."

sfth13
07-18-2009, 08:51 AM
I found this interesting and follows the different Spin you mention

Norval
07-19-2009, 07:38 AM
I have my doubts about such an "impactor" making much of an "explosion" that it would toss up enough material to be analyzed. But, a big explosion by a small nuke surely would. It is already known that there is water on the moon, just not how much and where for sure. Pointedly they are messing with beings that they should not be.

Gale
07-19-2009, 09:45 AM
Thanks sfth, from that video I went to their home page. They have produced a video "Moon Rising" that is very interesting.
They have a theory (the lights are still on on the moon) that if all those craters on the moon are not craters but structures then bombing a crater that could possibly be a structure, and possibly an inhabited structure would be an act of war.
TBLN, The Borderlands Network (http://tbln.com/index.html)

Part 1
The Moon Rising, Part 1 (http://tbln.com/Theater1.html)

Norval
07-20-2009, 08:02 AM
Bobbi and I watched all 9 segments of that video yesterday (she mostly listened) and I have to say that they cut their own throats. The ending could have been far shorter with alot less dramatic music. They did bring up some interesting points though, and some that are pretty far fetched too I think. That old blond bitch (used to have black hair standing next to Werner VonBraun) has done more harm than good so far I think. At least with the Disclosure Project with Dr. Richard Greer.

Good find Sfth, , thanky

Gale
07-20-2009, 08:58 AM
, , , , so, , , , no explosive, just a 5,000 pound rocket casing traveling at just over 5,000 miles per hour, , , mmmmmmmmm k.

If it is just a 5,000 pound casing why are they calling it a bomb? Wouldn't it more or less just penetrate on impact?

sfth13
07-20-2009, 07:44 PM
No need for thanks! it's all about sharing info.. I watched all 9 parts also, very very interesting...I don't know what's going to happen when that things hits the moon but whoever is up there is gonna be pissed...

sfth13
07-21-2009, 04:16 AM
looks like something slammed into Jupitar last night

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2009-112

Norval
07-21-2009, 08:59 AM
, , , and discovered by an Ausi no less, , grins. Way to go down under. Cool thanky, ,

Gale
07-23-2009, 10:47 AM
Apparently NASA has already bombed a planet in our solar system, on September 21, 2003 the Galileo craft was crashed into Jupiter's equatorial region containing plutonium isotope (Pu-238).
It seems there was speculation about the Cassini craft at the end of its 4 year mission in 2008 was going to be crashed into Saturn but the mission was extended 2 years.
I wonder if the concern about Cassini will resurface when the end of the extension date gets closer? There is some information on the net of a Project Lucifer.

Gale
10-13-2009, 06:50 AM
The videos of the descent and impact are really a bust, turning to white screen when still a distance from the surface or at least that was what I saw from the Nasa web site.
Reminiscent of Stardust.