Earth Chronicles, Zecharia Sitchin

[Gale]

I started reading Sitchin's Book 1 of his Earth Chronicles. I don't know enough about the names of the gods, demigods, their children and grandchildren's names to comment on Sitchin's relating one name in Sumerian to a name in Greek or other language, as to, if they are one and the same person. But I do know a few things about those ones that left their place in the Heaven's and the ones that were kicked out of the Heaven's to add my commentary.
In particular page 171 and page 172 of Book 1 of the Earth Chronicles, The 12th Planet.
Sitchin tries to change the Nephilim as to be the ones that left their place in the Heaven's instead of them being the offspring of the ones that left their place in the Heaven's and took human wives.
He translates the word "Shem" to mean rocket ship. I think there could be a better word to replace rocket ship with.
I will get back to this when I have a bit more time but here is page 171 & 172 to read.

[Gale]

There seems to be a huge fascination on the Net with this 12th planet theory. The theory is there is a 12 planet in a large orbit around our Sun that is 3600 years to one revolution of the Sun and this planet will catastrophically brush Earth on its way by. That its previous flyby's left the debris that is the asteroid belt just past Mars. That this 12th planets in coming is causing the perturbations of all the planets and moons in our solar system.

I don't agree with this theory but a lot of Sitchin's data does directly verify what is written in the Document. For example, the ones that left their place in the heavens gave man knowledge.

[sfth13]

Very interesting stuff there are many youtube videos about this planet X or Nibiru here's one. I might have to ask a few guys on my Astronomy Forum from the southern hemisphere if they have seen this...it's kinda split 50-50 about who believes this and who dosen't

[Norval]

Wow, talk about trying to yank peoples religious strings, that video was mostly bogus bet shit.
2007 - 2014 for something on a fixed course? That is ludicrous.

I strongly think that "if" something is being tracked that by now it's trajectory would be known down to the day or week at least. If the object is erratic in it's behavior then it would be controlled by intelligence and impossible to track accurately.

[sfth13]

there's so much crap out there... just trying to scare people.... if you went to google video or youtube and searched planet X, Nirbiru or 2012 you could watch videos for days...and all the videos give different time lines.. that and the 2012 movie... 2012 can't get here fast enough... like Y2K

[Gale]

Creating fear and confusion and illicit an emotional response is STDD, as long as you can recognize that then you have already won the battle.

What I have been finding with the authors of books about these gods and demigods that were around before and after the flood; the books read as if the authors admire these ET's and Sitchin is at the top of this author list. The authors have missed the fact that these gods and demigods had errored and big time. They had/have violated our race, our women (and men also), our dna and taught us about technologies that were far ahead of our growth at that time.

Why do most people out there conveniently forget this?
How can these gods just fall out of the sky? With their technology, they can't. They would have been helped out of the sky or left voluntarily.
The first group left voluntarily. I wonder if this group left because they were not the elite and they would be superiors with our civilizations on Earth. The second group was forced out of the sky's by the dragon, I think of him as Lucifer. The third group, Lucifer and his followers were forced out of the sky's by the elite, very recently too.

Sitchin writes these gods called their temple doorways, the comings and goings of the planets, their accesses to the heavens and the planets, these gods named them after themselves (the Way of Anu etc). I wonder if the names of the 12 doors on the HNJ pissed off these gods cause the names are human names of the 12 tribes of Israel. Just a thought.

Back to my main point though, all these gods and god kings written about on the clay tables, animal hides etc that left or fell out of the sky were and are not our superiors. They are the BET's. They errored. They are not all that smart either. Their tactics are the same over and over again.
There does seem to be some that could fit a category of BRET (Bad Reformed ET).

The 12th planet Sitchin claims is identified as the planet that was between Mars and Jupiter, the debris field called the asteroid belt. I will continue reading to find out why Sitchin has gone beyond this information and continued with a theory of an incoming planet. It seems at this point he already has the answer but has gone off on a tangent about some rogue planet.
We already know there is going to be an incoming of mega proportions, the HNJ with the entourage. We know who should be afraid, very afraid when this happens and it's not us.
:bananen_smilies015: :bananen_smilies031:

[sfth13]

I think people just read about a being with powers than we has humans don't have and right away they think they are gods or some good guy that will help us.. we see on this planet how some people take advantage of the week minded or less wealthy... i'd say the same happens in the universe to some extent..but it is all facinating to read. it's a whole new world when you finally understand what is going on and any info or disinfo is good to have stored in your head until you need it to make a desicion.

what I had read somewhere i don't remember where, was last time that planet X came this way it hit and destroyed a planet that was between mars and jupiter and the remains are now the asteroid belt... and then I read that that planet was destroyed in a war ... there was a few different stories about it .. fun to read.

but i can't wait for the HNJ to get here.. i keep looking and waiting.

[Norval]

Is the asteroid belt between Jupiter and Mars a destroyed planet? I don't know. According to many there is too little material there to have made up a planet. Maybe a moon? Or, is it just remnants of when our solar system was being formed, or reformed?

As we are hearing of strange perturbations of orbits in our solar system; some gravitational anomaly is causing them. I don't subscribe to the planet x stuff, or what ever yah wants to call it, not at all. But, something is going on, as there are so many misdirections and misinformations out there. I am pretty sure that there is something being tracked and that they know a whole lot more about it than we are being told.

Fortunately we have a "base line" to perform our experiments and investigations with, the Document.

[Gale]

The asteroid belt, my inclination is a destroyed something. The something cannot be defined with the information we have right now. With the over abundance of information out there on the net, there are certain areas that the information is void.
I like that wording, "I don't subscribe to the planet x stuff". I don't either but I am curious about all this fascination with it. What are they basing their information on? Is it all based on Sitchin's translations backed up by a few individuals that are channeling these BET's?
It is obvious these clay tablets and records were written by the fallen ones.

[Gale]

Stichin mentions Marduk quite a bit and the Document only states one thing about Marduk:


Jeremiah 50
Babylon's Capture
1 This is the message that the LORD gave me about the
city of Babylon and its people:
2 "Tell the news to the nations! Proclaim it!
Give the signal and announce the news!
Do not keep it a secret!
Babylon has fallen!
Her god Marduk has been shattered!
Babylon's idols are put to shame;
her disgusting images are crushed!
3 "A nation from the north has come to attack
Babylonia and will make it a desert. Men and animals
will run away, and no one will live there."

I hate to say it but Sitchin has lead a lot of people astray.

[Gale]

Is the asteroid belt between Jupiter and Mars a destroyed planet? I don't know. According to many there is too little material there to have made up a planet. Maybe a moon? Or, is it just remnants of when our solar system was being formed, or reformed?
Fortunately we have a \"base line\" to perform our experiments and investigations with, the Document.

I think from this overview illustration that the material between Mars and Jupiter is a bit more extensive than most think.


Asteroid belt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_belt)


Basalt has also been found in space rocks shed by Vesta, the third largest object in the asteroid belt, located between the orbits of Jupiter and Mars. The presence of basalt is evidence that an object was once large enough to sustain internal heating.

"We need now to observe both objects in the near-infrared range to confirm whether they have a basaltic surface," said study leader Rene Duffard of the Institute of Astrophysics of Andalusia in Grenada, Spain. "If they do, we will need to try to work out where they came from and the fate of their parent objects. If they do not, we will have to come up with a new class of asteroid."
Strange Asteroids Baffle Scientists (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/070821_basalt_asteroid.html)

[sfth13]

WOW when you look at the asteroid belt this way i start to wonder how any of our probes mage it through to Jupiter, Saturn and so on??????

[Gale]

Did they go through or over?
What I find very interesting is the Greeks, Trojans and Hildas.

From that Wikipedia article:

More than half the mass of the main belt is contained in the four largest objects: 1 Ceres, 4 Vesta, 2 Pallas, and 10 Hygiea. All of these have mean diameters of more than 400 km, while Ceres, the main belt's only dwarf planet, is about 950 km in diameter.[1][2][3][4] The remaining bodies range down to the size of a dust particle. The asteroid material is so thinly distributed that multiple unmanned spacecraft have traversed it without incident.

That article also states the combined mass is only about 4% of our moons. I wonder just how true that is and just how accurate that article is.