The Gulf Oil Gusher

[Gale]

I have been somewhat following the news on the net and on CNN of this epic disaster. The whole thing is oozing incompetency from all the authorities. I watched the simulation on CNN of the mud chemical poured on the gusher, pumped into the equipment at the head of the gusher, then followed with cement. The simulation made no sense, I could not see how it would logically work.
Now the reports are of a chemical dispersant called "Corexit 9500' and 'Corexit EC9527A" being used to break up the oil and get it to drop to the ocean floor. These chemicals are supposedly toxic and getting the oil to settle on the ocean floor is going to cause just as much damage as being on the surface.

Gulf Oil Spill: Dispersants Have Potential to Cause More Harm Than Good (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/gulf-oil-spill-dispersants-have-potential-to-cause-more-harm-than-good-93424899.html)

BP Live Feed (http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html)

Gulf Cam Video Feed (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/20/live-gulf-oil-spill-video-feed_n_583682.html)

[Norval]

The answer is so simple to put a stop to this spill.

Why don't they do what we all know WILL stop it?

That is my question!?!?

[sfth13]

the local stations here are reporting that 30 sea turtles 19 dolphins and countless birds are dead the few pictires i saw of the dead turtles and dolphins appear to show a dead animal with no oils on it so i'm thinking the chemicals they are spraying are killing them...

they are also saying that there is a HUGE blob of oil floting below the surface that is at least 10 miles long and about 300 feet deep.. they also so found blobs of oil in key west but then they said the it wasn't the same oil. ???? it's the blind leading the blind...
some fishermen that were helping with the containment are reporting severe headaches, vomitting and skin rashes.. gotta love the chemicals....

this isn't the first time in the gulf check out this video...

[Gale]

Now that's a pretty good shot, nothing has changed in 30 yrs but the depth.

[Norval]

WOW, , thanks SFTH, 30 years ago, and the same mistakes.

[sfth13]

I'm just wondering how long it will be before the oil hit's the Gluf Stream current and surrounds FL and heads up the east coast.... then we'll see if it contaminates the drinking water...but there is a lot more dead marine life and birds than they are reporting...

[Norval]

Well, at least we know that our ecology is in good ET hands. :)

We just have to get the BETs out of the picture.

[sfth13]

Yep I agree. I just wish it happens sooner than later,,,

they made that leak worse.. they cut off the kinked pipe so they can TRY and cap it... so now the well is flowing at full velocity with some sort of inverted funnel over the top... but the oil is still comming out the sides, bottom and vent at a greater volume than before..

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

[sfth13]

Here's a crazy article a friend sent me. .... I don't know whether to laugh or say holy sh#t...here's a few sections and the link to the entire article... i think i'll laugh for now. :rofl: and then maybe :willy_nilly: :001_9898:

http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/06/bp-oil-spill-fema-camps


BP Oil Spill: A Slippery Slope to FEMA Detention Camps?

A government plot to round up citizens by force, "alien hybrids" on the move, and other rumors inspired by the Gulf tragedy.



Thu Jun. 3, 2010 3:00 AM PDT
Is there a covert government plan to forcibly evacuate up to 50 million people from the Gulf Coast and move them into FEMA trailers somewhere in Missouri and elsewhere because of the oil spill? Some of the nation's survivalists are convinced that the Obama administration is plotting just such an operation. Last week, Greg Evensen, a former Kansas state trooper and a regular on the "Patriot" movement talk circuit, appeared on the Internet radio show "Shattering the Darkness" to warn listeners that government is moving to evacuate basically everyone from the coast of Texas to Cape Cod. Evensen says the move will come after these areas become uninhabitable due to an "oversaturation of benzene" from the chemical dispersants BP is using to try to clean up the oil leaking into the Gulf of Mexico.


One wonders how many Tea Partiers listened all the way through to the end of the Hawk's show. Those who did might have questioned Evensen's claims after he started discussing "previously unseen ground units," possibly made up of "alien hybrids" masquerading as US troops, that were "emerging from areas in the Southwest and heading in an easterly direction." From the oil spill to FEMA camps to an alien invasion—it's the X Files gone green.

[Norval]

That causes thoughts from two different directions. hmmmm

[Gale]

Alex Jones has jumped on the info band wagon.





.... there are 9 segments.

[Norval]

hmmmmm watched it all, , ;)

[Gale]

I picked this up from Jerry's facebook.

[Norval]

It ain't getting any better yet. :(

Lots of conflicting stories coming out of the area too.

[Gale]

Where is all the oil going?

[sfth13]

it's getting to the point here that you have to rely on local people posting videos on blogs to find out how bad it really is.. the MSM just gives a few quick lines "the oils still leaking" and "everythings will be fine" you don't hear a word about the air quality or the drinking water...I wonder how long that will take ... MANY homes in FL have wells for water ... mine included.....we've already had a few calls at work from some boats doing the clean up asking about the sea water cooled condensers for the AC gettting filled with oily water and having compacity drop off by 50%. I wonder how this will effect the enigine cooling systems....

[Norval]

Speaking of air and water, check out this problem on land.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZe1AeH0Qz8&feature=player_embedded#

[Gale]

One women said "pains through out the body", would that disease where a person has chronic pain be from contaminates?

If they used this method in the gulf that might explain why there are reports of several other spots on the ocean floor near the gusher that is leaking.

[Gale]

Shrimp boats are now burn boats, two shrimpers with a boom between them circle up the surface oil then burn it along with anything caught in the boom circle.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-oil-spill-burnbox-20100617,0,4814068.story




BP Blocks Attempt to Save Endangered Sea Turtles from Oil Spill (http://seaturtles.org/article.php?id=1660)

Spill May Have Taken Its Largest Victim Yet (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/18/us/18whale.html?_r=1)

Over the last weeks, the carcasses of oily pelicans, turtles and other animals have washed to shore in the Gulf of Mexico. Now the first dead whale has been found — a juvenile sperm whale floating 77 miles from the leaking oil well.

It is claimed this picture accompanied that article until taken down, taken off the Internet.



What the hell is going on down there? I read reports of beached dying and dead whales on the east coast of Florida, is the oil or toxic soup being carried with the current up the east coast now?

[Gale]

This reporters last statement is very interesting. Complaints of symptoms similar to cleanup crews in 911 are being recorded not from just people along the coast.

[Gale]

Water samples from a beach in the Gulf....


Oil and water samples were taken from both the Shores of Grand Isle and from 20 miles out. The preliminary analysis was done at an academic analytical chemistry laboratory. Looking for the likely pollutants from the deep water Horizon Oil spill. It was focused on the detection of benzene and propylene glycol. Benzene and other highly toxic contaminants were very low however the concentration of propylene glycol was between 360 and 440 parts per million. Just 25 parts per million is know to kill most fish and propylene glycol is just one of many ingredients found in Corexit. In short, the Gulf is being poisoned by BP's usage of the dispersants even after the EPA asked them to stop back in May. We are willing to provide ANY respected/known laboratory these samples or provide them with more. This is very serious to all people and marine life in and around the Gulf.

[Norval]

There seems to be a major effort by the IAC agents to keep any true news about the spill off the web. :(

[sfth13]

all independant testing results are the complete opposite to what the MSM is reporting... i like it when tar balls wash up on the beach and they say they have to test them to see if it came from the gulf leak ???? where else could they come from??
:confused1: :moon:

[Gale]

I have read about citizens on the east coast of Florida finding oil balls on the beach up the east coast.

[sfth13]

I'm on the east coast of Brevard county Florida not far from the space center and they did find tar balls but the news here said it might be from a shrimp boat that sank in May... how much oil is on a shrimp boat :rolllaugh: the oil on the shrimp boat would be refined and not crude... i could be wrong but i don't think refined engine oil could make a tar ball....

http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20100707/NEWS01/7070329/Tar-balls-wash-up-on-Cocoa-Beach

Dozens of tar balls washed up on Cocoa Beach on Tuesday, sparking conjecture about whether they drifted in from the biggest domestic oil spill in history or a sunken shrimp boat off Cape Canaveral.
Coast Guard officials gathered tar samples to send to a military laboratory in Connecticut. They'll test to see whether the tar is from the ongoing BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
Another theory is that the tar washed in from a shrimp boat that sank in May.

[Gale]

I lived in St Pete for a year, Orlando & Winter Park for 2 years, spent a weekend down at the Keys, all back in 1978-1981 and of all the beaches I had been on never did I see tar balls. I lived for a year & a half in Newfoundland on Conception Bay never seeing tar balls on any beach. Now I am in BC on the Strait, not once have I seen a tar ball on the beaches. Originally from Ontario, the Kawartha Lakes area, Otonabee River, any of the lakes and rivers I had been to never once did I see tar balls. So from personal experience I can say tar balls washing ashore on the beaches is not something to expect seeing.

I would be concerned with what you don't see, the chemicals used to break up the oil, turning it pinkish orange leaves chemicals that you cannot see that are deadly; from the information I have researched so far. There is the added threat of methane, which is heavier than oxygen and would lay low on surfaces. One suggestion was to raise the methane to the upper atmosphere and ignite it. I marvel at some of the stupidity out there in this world.

I found the images on this site interesting. The amount of crude that has spewed and the effort to cleanup or deal with it looks minuscule in comparison. I am not knocking those that have been working hard to battle this but wouldn't one expect major mobilization world wide to tackle this? Since this event will have an effect world wide because of air currents, water currents, quality of life all nations should be up front and center working on this. Tell BP to go to hell and get this dealt with; the top executive couldn't even speak right and his face looked glazed over in the clips I saw of him speaking to some U.S. government something.





TEDxOilSpill Expedition (http://tedxoilspill.com/expedition/)

[Gale]

The U.S. military is pulling out of the Gulf? I have read that CNN news crews have also pulled out of the gulf area ... what's that about??
NATO Orders 7,000 US Marines To Costa Rica As Gulf Oil Disaster Quake Fears Grow (http://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/nato-orders-7000-us-marines-to-costa-rica-as-gulf-oil-disaster-quake-fears-grow/)


Russian foreign military intelligence directorate (GRU) sources are reporting in the Kremlin today that NATO has ordered over 7,000 US Marines to begin deploying in the Central American Nation of Costa Rica [map 2nd photo left] over fears the disastrous oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is about to rupture the fracture zone lying between the North American and Caribbean Plates and potentially unleashing upon the America’s a catastrophic earthquake.

As we had previously reported on in our July 4th report titled “NATO Orders All “Critical Assets” Moved 100 Miles Inland From Gulf Oil Spill Region”, NATO’s current Chairman of the Military Committee Admiral Giampaolo Di Paola has taken defacto control over the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster from President Obama who continues to this day leaving this unprecedented catastrophe in the hands of his intelligence services and BP.

Admiral Di Paola’s fears, this report continues, lies in the massive amount of abiogenic oil and methane gases being released from the Gulf of Mexico which many experts are warning could destabilize an already weakened earthquake zone and which Russian scientists are holding responsible for the 5.0 magnitude trembler that hit the Great Lakes region barely a fortnight ago and the 4.6 Virgin Island and 4.7 Guatemala quakes occurring during the past 24 hours.

[Norval]

hmmm k, and the plot thickens more. Good find.

[Norval]

hmmm k, and the plot thickens more. Good find.

[sfth13]

there's been talk about trying to seal it with a Nuke...maybe that's the next step... but i have read independant sources saying that the methane and bezine along with another toxic gas is at very high levels in the water and in the air...


After Gulf swimmers report illness, questions about opening a beach


Florida Gov. Charlie Crist told the "CBS Morning Show" this week that he went for a swim on Pensacola Beach after BP crews cleaned it up. He said continual testing done by the county has shown that the waters are clean. "There isn't a toxic nature," Governor Crist said. "It's much more of a nuisance than anything at this point. But it is safe."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20100701/ts_csm/311973

[Norval]

One has to wonder why there are no pictures of the governor taking that swim. :lol:

What a photo op he missed. :rolleyes:

How long did he scrub down after that swim? ;)