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chnswam
12-03-2008, 09:58 PM
Hi All,

A while back, I had read from some channeled messages (which are usually questionable), that the position of solar system has changed much & hence we wouldn't see some of the regular stars or constellations.
I just brushed it off then. But then, I saw George Green telling that he had learnt that stars that twinkle with blue, green & red colors can be alien spacecrafts. Ever since, I have observing the night sky. Some constellations really were missing for a long time. Only yesterday could I find the Orion constellation, but strangely, the stars now look a bit different. Most of the stars now twinkle with those same blue, green & red colors. I just get a feeling they don't genuinely look like originals. This leads to the question, are they alien spacecrafts then? What is significant here is that, in those channeled messages, it was claimed that they (whoever they are) were positioning their spacecrafts to look like constellations from the Earth.
So I was just wondering that if I had access to a good enough telescope, then the doubt would be clarified once and for all, since anyway, we can't trust NASA or any other government agency if this is true.
Perhaps, if anyone has telescopes or has access to telescopes, they can just have a gaze. Please do share it here too :)

sfth13
12-04-2008, 12:04 AM
Hi chnswam. I've notice these stars also and I have aimed my telescope at them and they appear to be stars. I also have notice it happenes most when the star is just above the horizon say about 45 degrees or less, once up higher I haven't seen any.. don't get me wrong I have seen many unexplained things in the night sky that still have me saying what the heck was that..I've read it has to do with dust particles and or moisture in the atmosphere.. the other night I looked at the sky just after Orion had appeared. a star appeard and it was blinking red and green I when inside to a program I have on the computer and the star was Sirius one of the brighter stars..maybe you saw something else which I would believe, but all of the green and red blinking stars that I have aimed my scope at appeared to be just stars.. you can get the software i use free it will show you what is in your night sky at that time and will help you find the constellation.... depending on the time of year some constellation can not be seen. here's the link to the software it's called Stellarium and it's free
http://files.uberdownloads.com/apps/Stellarium/indexLeft.php?mode=preview

hope that helps.:bananen_smilies077:

chnswam
12-04-2008, 01:56 AM
No sfth13, I really appreciate your views, whether they are comments or criticism - it doesn't matter, a useful discussion is what does matter. Thanks for sharing your views here.
When you said you saw them in telescope, did you see them in a real physical telescope or the computer program? I think telescopes are very expensive here, so was just thinking of visiting any nearby planetarium.

I agree with you about their strange appearance at about 45 degrees.
And has anyone noticed, the planets Venus & Jupiter appear much brighter now than before, lending credence to this report: The Interplanetary Day After Tomorrow (http://www.enterprisemission.com/_articles/05-14-2004_Interplanetary_Part_1/Interplanetary_1.htm)

sfth13
12-04-2008, 05:13 AM
yes chnswam, I did look through an actually telescope. that I do own. I was agreeing with you that i do also see the blinkking color stars but after my own personal investuation of looking at them through my telescope and some research on the web what I posted was my outcome... my point of reference to the computer program was to helped identify what i saw with my own eyes through my telescope. as far as jupiter or venus being brighter you didn't mention that in your original post..that's something I didn't notice..

Gale
12-04-2008, 07:39 AM
I am highly suspicious of those alleged stars that blink red & green with a white. Venus and Jupiter don’t blink those colours, I have double-checked even recently and the Earth’s atmospheric layers are changing. I wonder what effect that has on the colours we see in the sky, referring to the blinking colour. See
The Bibles Signs in our Sky (http://earthsbanner.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11)

sfth13
12-04-2008, 07:57 AM
I am highly suspicious of those alleged stars that blink red & green with a white. Venus and Jupiter don’t blink those colours, I have double-checked even recently and the Earth’s atmospheric layers are changing. I wonder what effect that has on the colours we see in the sky, referring to the blinking colour. See
The Bibles Signs in our Sky (http://earthsbanner.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11)


So am I, but everytime I look at them trough my scope they just look like stars.. a pinpoint of light. and when I cross reference them they are usually stars ...the bright one to the east this time of year on the east coast about 1-2 hours after Orion shows is Sirius I've watched it for hours blink different colors and when it high enough in the sky the colors are no longer there it's just a white light.. they move along with all the other stars..believe me I wait and stare sometimes waiting for them to move lol they are strange indeed I'm no expert but this is just my findings..and i could be wrong but I have seen things zig zag accross the sky, lights blink on and off that stay still for hours. round and cylinder shaped objects fly right past my field of view in the telescope.. all unexplained.. but I look every night it's clear and i'm always trying to find out what it is i'm looking at and for..this time of year without the mosquitos of FL attacking me i'm out from dusk to about 2am evry clear night..now i'll have to look at this a little more ...

Swami Salami
12-04-2008, 10:05 AM
I don't know if this will be a stupid remark but here we go.

As we all know the magnetic field of the earth is changing, maybe flipping. Could there be a possibilty that due to the decreasing field of the magnetic field of mother earth, the way we perceive the colors from the other planets, spaceships, is changing?

just a thought, don't kill me.................:bananen_smilies077:

sfth13
12-04-2008, 10:31 AM
we wouldn't kill you....your the music man..:RockOn: please any info or explanation is welcome... as stated i'm no expert... but i do like to investigate :detective:things i see in the sky... it' keeps me off the streets and out of trouble:001_smile:

Swami Salami
12-04-2008, 10:40 AM
Well, I'm NO expert on it, we all know the Northern and Soutern lights. When we travel to the North- or Southpole we can see these lights.


North


South

As far as i know these lights are created by particles coming from the sun and following the path of the magnetic field of the earth.

Something like this


The magnet ~ the earth.

Now the fieldlines of the Earth are changing because of the magnetic shift.

So could it be possible we are starting to see space without "the protection" of the Earth's magnetic field?

And thus creating:
http://earthsbanner.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11

Just some thoughts..............

sfth13
12-04-2008, 10:43 AM
I would love to see those with my own eyes.. pictures i'm sure just don't do justice... must be amazing...

Swami Salami
12-04-2008, 10:48 AM
I've never seen 'm but I'm pretty sure we are going to them within a couple years around the world.

zorgon
12-04-2008, 01:19 PM
I think telescopes are very expensive here, so was just thinking of visiting any nearby planetarium.

Hmmm you DO realize that a Planetarium makes FAKE stars on a screen with little beams of light right? You might want to look for an observatory. They have public viewing nights and usually astronomy clubs will set up their own telescopes outside for you to look through

If you take the time to ask seriously they might let you look through the big ones...

120 inch Shane telescope at the Lick Observatory... really cool. (me on the left, my daughter and the technician on the right.

zorgon
12-04-2008, 01:25 PM
So could it be possible we are starting to see space without "the protection" of the Earth's magnetic field?

The sun flips its poles every eleven years like clock work...

If the you "start to see space without "the protection" of the Earth's magnetic field" you may kiss your ass goodbye and there truly will be an "end times" as we get zapped by the full force of the space radiation..

But not to worry... HAARP has that covered... they will just toss up that field they have been working on...

But hey maybe Cuba will have to pony up or we trow the switch over their heads

See? Now you get the picture?

:barb:

Swami Salami
12-04-2008, 01:56 PM
That raises the question: "Was HAARP , and the other similar equipment around the globe, built to fullfill this "protection" task?"

If the answer is no:"For what purpuse was it then built then?" Psychoweapon, Weathercontrol, Communications with subs, looking for: mineraldeposits, Caves, etc?

If the answer is yes:"Why should TBTB protect the envirement while they have underground cities around the globe in which they could live during the time the earth will be without magnetic protection?" Also there wouldn't be the neccesarity of using food as a weapon right now to kill of the population, nature would take care of it itself.

I can't get it clear, you.............?

Nice to see your face Zorgon and uuhhh good tools must hang dry.........:pickinonme:

Heretic
12-05-2008, 02:35 AM
I have no telescope of my own either. There is a thread on hunting for a good one here at Earth's Banner Astronomy & Amature Astronomy - Telescopes (http://earthsbanner.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49) because I am looking for a good telescope to purchase in the near future and I am bleeding these guys for advice.

I have been to Battle Point Astronomical Association (http://www.bpastro.org/) - A non-profit amateur astronomy organization, located in Bainbridge Island, Washington, a couple of times, but never during an event and I have never looked through it yet.

Concerning those blinking stars, hmm I have seen some alleged UFOs with blinking lights and the latest is the East Rutherford UFO that Gary has pointed out in his thread Amazing UFO footage East Rutherford, must see! (http://earthsbanner.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93)

Blinking lights immediately make me think "our craft" but that is a knee-jerk reaction as I have seen some other very convincing UFO videos with blinking lights as well. Who am I to say whether or not UFOs use blinking lights for some reason, maybe they are trying to "blend in".

I did some googling but not alot of people are discussing spaceships masquerading as stars, so if you ran with this theory and found some evidence, it seems you could be a conspiracy pioneer.

chnswam
12-07-2008, 02:51 AM
Thanks sfth13 for sharing your research. It helps clear some doubts. Good to know you spend so much time looking at the night sky. :)
@ Swami: Let's discover ;)
@ Zorgon: sorry for that mistake, yeah it should be an observatory. Thanks for the tip :)
@ Heretic: I'm no conspiracy pioneer, just a truth seeker Earthling ;)

I don't think the intention behind HAARP-like weapons is benevolent, rather it is very sinister - is what I have found till now [you may want to see this (http://earthsbanner.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121)].

Gary
12-29-2008, 12:56 PM
Hmmm you DO realize that a Planetarium makes FAKE stars on a screen with little beams of light right? You might want to look for an observatory. They have public viewing nights and usually astronomy clubs will set up their own telescopes outside for you to look through

If you take the time to ask seriously they might let you look through the big ones...

120 inch Shane telescope at the Lick Observatory... really cool. (me on the left, my daughter and the technician on the right.


Hey man, you are human! nice daughter too!